GYMN-L Digest - 26 Apr 1996 to 27 Apr 1996

There are 15 messages totalling 394 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

1. Introduction
2. Wide World of Sports
3. <No subject given> (2)
4. Super Six Update
5. Nadia and Bart's wedding
6. NCAA super Six update number two
7. Abuse In Gymnastics....
8. NCAA Unofficial final results
9. NCAA Team Scores
10. Re-Intro
11. Dom Moceanu-Mag Cover!
12. Gym Ownership
13. Dance Stretches
14. MEN: Team Finals at NCAA Men's Championships

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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 16:47:23 -0800
From: ***@WPGATE.DFM.UIDAHO.EDU
Subject: Introduction

Hi, I thought I would continue with the recent trends of intros... I'm
Melinda, I'm 28 and another HUGE fan of gymnastics.( It is nice to know
there ARE a lot of us) I trained in Canada until I was 19 and then
regretably I gave it up, I really miss it! I have been coaching since I
was 15 and I really enjoy that too and I'm now coaching and living in
Moscow, Idaho. ( Yes there is a place in USA called Moscow!) I love
traveling and the past few years I have been lucky enough to visit a lot
of different countries and made sure to hunt out the gymnastics meets
and clubs while I was there! It is so interesting to see how other
countries train, how the kids are, what the gyms are like etc. I coached
in England and also Zimbabwe which was pretty cool. I also saw the
national training facility they have in Canberra, Australia which was
worth checking out for any gymnasticst fan. ( Or any sport for that
matter as they seem to have them all the national teams there in the
training center) I think that the national teams HAVE to train there and it
has caused a bit of contoversy in Oz because of this, any Ozzie
gymners enlighten us on the recent developments? I know countries
like Romania and old USSR have similar rules, what do people think of
that philosophy? The strength of the National team vs the gymnasts'
living at home?
I work at the University of Idaho, but am being tempted more and more to
try and coach full time instead! I'm sure many of you can relate this!
Anyway I am always happy to talk to any other gymnastics people....
Melinda..

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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 20:04:41 -0400
From: ***@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU
Subject: Wide World of Sports

Better check local listings for the WWoS anniversary special. Jeff said it
was on this Sunday at 1 pm EST, but here in Columbus it's airing from 4-6 pm
EST Sunday. My local TV Guide says specifically that Nadia Comaneci will be
profiled. I wouldn't be surprised if there were clips from her wedding.
Hopefully tomorrow's WWoS won't have TOO much horse-racing. I heard the
show is supposed to be devoted mainly to gymnastics, with only a "preview" of
the Kentucky Derby. But then again, after last week, when they wasted so much
time showing stories they'd already aired during their Sabae coverage rather
than routines, I don't have a lot of faith in them... BTW, someone asked about
the back hip circle that Khorkina "added" to her routine. Well, what we saw on
ABC is not what the new element is supposed to look like. She is supposed to do
the Pak salto into a back hip circle and then immediate half twist to the high
bar. She hit it beautifully in qualifying and semi-finals and then missed it in
finals. It would have been nice if ABC had shown us one of her earlier routines
so viewers could have better understood what Kathy was talking about when she
said Svetlana missed her new move. They certainly had the time!

Beth

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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 20:55:26 -0400
From: ***@WPI.EDU
Subject: <No subject given>

I was wondering if anyone could help me locate a video put out on
Nadia's life. A friend had mentioned some thing about its existence, but
could not tell me how to get a copy. Would anyone be able to direct me in
the right direction. Would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your help.

-Timothy

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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 20:26:49 -0500
From: ***@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU
Subject: Super Six Update

Courtesy of Press Row in TUscaloose, Alabama, a Super six Update

1) Georgia 98.525 (completed beam and floor)
2) Michigan 98.300 (completed vault and bars)
3) Alabama 49.475 (completed bars)
4) UCLA 49.450 (completed vault)
5) Utah 49.150 (completed beam)
6) OSU 48.950 (completed floor)

It appears we are in for one heck of a competition. Bama was on beam
when I called, UCLA on bars, Utah on floor and OSU on vault. More updates
as they come available (which means when I can call) :).

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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 22:10:38 -0400
From: ***@SCRANTON.COM
Subject: <No subject given>

kinesiology
anyone know what it is?

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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 22:11:34 -0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Nadia and Bart's wedding

>... Nadia Comaneci and Bart Conner's wedding, which took place today.

Actually, the 26th was just the civil ceremony (a traditional part of all
orthodox weddings). Saturday the 27th is the big church event.

Watch for videos highlights on Wide World's 35th ann. show this Sunday.

-Susan

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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 21:22:34 -0500
From: ***@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU
Subject: NCAA super Six update number two

More scores, though not complete cuz I called middle of rotation five:
suprise of the evening: UCLA is still in the hunt....

UCLA
49.450 (vault) 49.250 (bars) in the middle of beam

UTAH
49.150 (beam) 49.175 (floor) middle of vault

OSU
48.950 (floor) 49.475 (vault) 49.175 (bars) on a bye

Georgia
49.400 (beam) 49.125 (floor!) 49.675 (vault) on bars

Alabama
49.475 (bars) 49.150 (beam) 49.625 (floor) K.Kelly 10.0 on floor, bye

Michigan
49.300 (vault) 49.000 (bars 48.975 (beam) on floor at present

BTW, georgia was finishing on bars when I called.
More to come

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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 19:29:28 -0700
From: ***@IX.NETCOM.COM
Subject: Abuse In Gymnastics....

Ok. I know that this is out of the subject
and all but I never really got to make my point about gymnastics and
abuse. Ok:here's my story....

I was on Level 4 team last summer. The
coach wasn't very nice to me. She didn't really call me any names but
she was very rude to me and told me that I had no talent. I am 14 as
you all probably know and I am/was not stupid. I didn't like the
situation that I was in so I left. No one said that I HAD to be there.
No one tied me down and MADE me go. Sure, my parents were a little
disappointed but they got over it. I'm just glad that I got out before
I began to hate it. I still go to classes and I'm doing better than
ever. I don't consider what she did abuse. My parents paid her good
money to train me well and make me a champion and she was doing her
job. Lots of the girls love her but her style wasn't for me. I still
see her all the time and she's kind to me and I am kind to her. I just
like to have fun and try new things and not have all of the preeure.
Some people like that but I didn't. It's no big thing. If I still
wanted to compete, I could. I could go to another gym but I choose not
to. I am in control of me. Like my teacher always says" If you don't
like it, there's the door." Well, I saw the door so I left....

Laura

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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 21:42:03 -0500
From: ***@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU
Subject: NCAA Unofficial final results

Guys, who woulda thunk it??? :):):)
OK, this is all unofficial, what I got off of press row, they were
waiting for one score for floor for UCLA, but the girl had fallen,
and youcould hear the cheers loud and clear (VERY LOUD!) on this end
of the phone. Anyhow, here's what I got:

1) Alabama 198.025
2) UCLA 197.500 (or somethin close)
3) Utah 196.775
4) Georgia 196.750 (48.575 disaster on last rotation, bars)
5) OSU 196.525
6) Michigan 196.375

Again, this is all unofficial, and I'll save the cheers for ths
Bama fans, who were making an unbelievable rucus on the other end,
but ROLL TIDE ROLL!!!!

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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 22:09:32 -0500
From: ***@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU
Subject: NCAA Team Scores

OK, this is what I have, unoficially, still, but it's darn close:

1) Alabama 49.775 49.475 49.150 49.625 198.025
2) UCLA 49.450 49.250 49.500 49.300 197.500
3) Utah 49.250 49.200 49.150 49.175 196.775
4) Georgia 49.675 48.575 49.400 49.125 196.750
5) OSU 49.475 49.175 48.925 48.950 196.525
6) Michigan 49.300 49.000 48.975 49.100 196.375

Alabama apparently racked up two tens (Kim Kelly and Daniele McAdams)
on their final rotation, vault. They also had a ten on floor from Kim.

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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 23:14:31 -0400
From: ***@HICOM.NET
Subject: Re-Intro

Howdy, GYMNers:

I am Michele (newlywed--still can't let go of that maiden name
yet...), your Fantasy Gymnastics Game Meister (Meistress?).

I teach 8th grade foreign languages (French, Spanish & Italian) in Cliffside
Park, New Jersey (USA) 2 miles from the bridge leading to 'da Bronx. As a
language person, one thing I love about this list is the many nations
represented here. Other hobbies: I love theatre, I act/sing/dance in as much
community theatre (musicals) as a teaching job will allow. Love mystery novels
(especially 'alphabet' mysteries w/Kinsey Milhone, a strong, wise-cracking
female PI). And my husband has recently converted me into a cat-lover:)

I danced pretty seriously for about 8 years, and came into gymn with THAT
background. As for my involvement with the great sport of gymnastics, I
competed in high school, but I started too late (14) to rise to stardom or
achieve greatness. But I gained more in goal-setting, controlling nerves, team
mentality, to name a few benefits of gymn in the four years I did it than
probably any other undertaking in my life, with the exception of theatre. They
both require all of those things!

Great idea to re-introduce ourselves. I hate the flame wars, and hope this warm
and fuzzy aura on the list continues...

Ciao, nice to meet you all again,
Michele

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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 23:14:34 -0400
From: ***@HICOM.NET
Subject: Dom Moceanu-Mag Cover!

Howdy, GYMNers:

To my dismay, I saw at a New York Port Authority newsstand today the most recent
issue of Vanity Fair, with, among five or six athletes from other sports,
Dominique Moceanu on a cover entitled "The (or 'Our') Olympic Athletes."

I say this is to my 'dismay' since in the USA's recent history, putting a
gymnast on a magazing cover BEFORE she competes in the meet of her life is
usually inversely proportional to her performance at the meet--translation: she
doesn't, for whatever reason, live up to the 'hype.' Like many of you with the
infamous Kodak commercial, I am appalled that in this instance, Moceanu has not
even made an Olympic team, and is being touted as 'Olympic Athlete' (maybe I'd
have preferred 'Olympic Hopeful' or something safer).

I do not blame the media for this. I am not entirely sure who I blame for this.
The athlete? The coach? Vanity Fair itself? I dunno. But I just got a queasy
feeling in my tummy when I saw the mag. I hope that my worry was for naught,
and that Dom kicks major gluteus maximus at trials and then at the Games. But
for the record, I am not in favor of too much hype around Olympic hopefuls,
especially the young ones.

Acting like the over-protective schoolteacher that I am,
Michele

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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 23:42:32 -0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Gym Ownership

Sorry Gina -

I didn't write the note toward your friend... I am glad you stepped up and
opened your gym... you may bring something to the table other owners don't...
a base ground in a true love of the sport.

Mike Mayzak

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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 22:23:25 -0600
From: ***@CABLEREGINA.COM
Subject: Dance Stretches

This request is directed toward Dance coaches and choreographers. I'm
planning a stretching class mainly for dance, does anyone have a proven
program or good references that they are willing to share. You may E-mail me
privately if you wish. Thanks
Marg.

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Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 00:07:00 MDT
From: ***@RMII.COM
Subject: MEN: Team Finals at NCAA Men's Championships

Apologies to those who receive this mailing twice because they are on both
lists....

NCAA Men's Gymnastics Championships
Team Finals
April 26, 1996
Stanford University
Palo Alto, California

1. Ohio State 232.150
2. Cal-Berkeley 231.775
3. Stanford 229.925
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Scoresheet, courtesy of Mayland (the official statistician for the meet)

Ohio State Univ.
FX PH R V PB HB
Frank Ansevin 9400
Drew Durbin 9700 9825 9725 9000 9100 9825
David Eckert 9850 9200
Tim Elsner 9750 9500 9550 9400 9625
Chad Finefrock 9750 9700
Michael Finn 9400
Peter Landry 9600 9500
Michael Morgan 9675 9600 9250 9200 8500
Neil Niemi 9000
Doug Stibel 9600 9600 9675 9600 9675
Blaine Wilson 9925 9750 9850 9750 9675 9900
39050 38775 39175 38075 37975 39100 232150

Univ. of Calfornia
FX PH R V PB HB
Josh Birckelbaw 9625 9625 9550 9500 9000 9725
Alex Chansky 8750 9350 9200 9350 9600
Brycen Counts 9500 9350
CJ Faust 9050
Bryan Fox 9825
Steve George 8500 9550
David Kruse 9825 9600 9525 9400 9550 9900
Andrew Mason 9825 9500 9750 9750
Gewin Sincharoen 9625 9725 9500 9400 9725
Trent Wells 9825 9525 9800 9850
38900 38775 38450 37925 38500 39225 231775


Stanford Univ.
FX PH R V PB HB
Ian Bachrach 9800 8600 9550 9250
Gabe Edelman 9300 9350
Jamie Ellis 9750 9625 9500 9150 9600 9825
Scott Finkelstein 9500 9650 8900 9050
Peter Hegi 8600 9600 9150 9700
Jeremy Herman 9650 9500
Andrew Manson 9650
Clarence Miao 9700 9575 9250 8750 9450
Keith Wiley 9900 8900 9625 9300 9400 9825
Oliver Demree 9400 9000
39150 38500 38375 37250 37850 38800 229925

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