GYMN-L Digest - 26 Apr 1996

There are 7 messages totalling 309 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. USAG New routines
  2. Joint the crowd! (Intro)
  3. NCAA mens team rankings
  4. NCAA Men's Gymnastics
  5. NCAA all arounders
  6. more NCAA aa data
  7. Soviet dominance

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Date:    Fri, 26 Apr 1996 01:44:33 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: USAG New routines

New USA junior olympic compulsories will not start until the summer of 1997.

Dean

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Date:    Thu, 25 Apr 1996 23:02:46 -0700
From:    ***@VCN.BC.CA
Subject: Joint the crowd! (Intro)

Hi Everyone!

Special thanks to Kris, what an great idea, things are really happening
on the list now that everyone is doing an intro, I guess I should put in
my share too.  My name is Thomas, I been on this list for just a
little over a year now and I love this list (Special thanks again to
everyone who put this together and all the hard working GYMN reporter).
I'm 23 y.o., a part-time student and a full-time athlete in the sport of
Olympic Flatwater Kayaing or Sprint Kayaking.  I love the sport of
Gymnastic very much, but just only as a fan (did it for one summer when I
was a kid).  My favorite gymnasts are Yuri Chechi, Amanda Borden, Dina
Kochetkova, Elena Piskun, Oksana Fabrichnova, Marleen Lavoire (Go
Canada!) and many others.  I guess that's all, oh yes.. two thumbs up for
all those who post knowlegeble and positive message.

Your fellow GYMNer,
Thomas

PS - For those who live in the U.S. and like to try kayaking or canoeing
     the # for U.S. Canoe and Kayak Team is (317) 237-5690, they can
     direct you to a club near you.  I always thought a gymnast would
     make a good paddler (strenght to weight ration), give it a try you
     might discover a new talent, which what Mike Barrowman (92' Olympic gold
     medalist in swimming is doing).  Any other questions, please e-mail
     me privately.

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Date:    Fri, 26 Apr 1996 00:34:17 -0700
From:    ***@NETCOM.COM
Subject: NCAA mens team rankings

Pat seems to be off covering Girls gymn
(AGAIN ? that TRAITOR! {snicker} )

So Ill cover it.

NCAA nationals, Stanford, CA USA, day 1 Maples Pavillion 96.Apr.25

team        fx      ph      sr      vt      pb      hb     total   rank
Stanford  38.875  38.850  38.100  38.075  38.200  39.050 231.150     1
Berkeley  38.825  38.475  38.650  37.450  38.450  39.150 231.000     2
Ohio      38.350  38.775  38.975  37.950  37.000  38.900 230.875     3
Iowa      38.575  38.200  38.425  37.975  38.725  38.625 230.525     4
Oklahoma  38.950  38.375  37.700  37.725  37.500  37.950 228.200     5
Penn      38.225  36.400  37.550  36.900  37.800  37.725 224.600     6

This means Stanford, Berkeley & THE Ohio STate University go on to Fri night.
(Not my idea, idea of regents for the "THE OHIO...", they are VERY strict about
that! {grin} )

Im having a blast.  I ended up with all the Stanford parents.
Hegi's on one side of me, Edelmans in front of me, Finklesteins next row down.
You think KIDS get rowdy ?  HAH !

To kick things off, the infamous Stanford band showed up.
They dont use uniforms.  They wore the loudest patterns they could find.
One sousaphone has the radiation pattern painted in its bell, another the
SPAM logo, and the trumpet section keeps running around.
(Few years ago they got on the field too early and caused Berkeley to win the
"Big Game")  These guys are prolly the outrageous school band youll ever see.

Anyone wanting to find me, Im in the back row of section 4, row E seat 9.
Look for the green baseball cap with the P on it.
Only had one taker for a GYMN get together, bummer.

Penn lost a guy on HB.  He fell & clutched his gut.  Looked like a ruptured
diphragm to me.  They had the medics out there awhile but he did walk off the
floor with help.

Berkeley was horrid at first but got MUCH better.

I bagged a press pack so Ill post the other numbers in later posts.

-texx

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Date:    Fri, 26 Apr 1996 01:38:00 MDT
From:    ***@RMII.COM
Subject: NCAA Men's Gymnastics

Thanks to Mayland for scores:

1996 NCAA Men's Gymnastics Championships
Maples Pavilion
Palo Alto, CA
April 25 - 27, 1996

1. Stanford, 2. Cal, 3. Ohio State

Stanford Univ.
                     FX    PH     R     V    PB    HB
Ian Bachrach       9875        9700  9700        9800
Gabe Edelman                   8400        8550
Jamie Ellis        9775  9550  9100  9100  9700  9750
Scott Finkelstein  9500  9675        8800        9550
Peter Hegi         9600        9250  9250        9800
Jeremy Herman            9775              9550
Andrew Manson                  9600
Clarence Miao      9625  8850        9575  9350  9700
Keith Wiley        9600  9850  9550  9550  9600  9700
Oliver Demree            9550              9050
                  38875 38850 38100 38075 38200 39050 231150
Univ. of Calfornia
                    FX    PH     R     V    PB    HB
Josh Birckelbaw   9625  9300  9650  9300  8400  9850
Alex Chansky      9650  9600        9100  9400  9300
Brycen Counts     9400              8850
CJ Faust                      9550
Bryan Fox                     9800
Steve George            8300  9650
David Kruse       9850  9675  9350  9550  8900  9850
Andrew Mason            9650  9350        9650  9775
Gewin Sincharoen  9700  9550        9500  9600  9650
Trent Wells       8950              9100  9800  9675
                 38825 38475 38650 37450 38450 39150 231000

Univ. of Iowa
                    FX    PH     R     V    PB    HB
Chris Camiscioli  9400        9725
Aaron Cotter      9625  9500  9750  9150  9675  9700
Greg Gebhardt           9700
Sean Juguilon           9450  9300  9100  9300
Mark Kuglitsch          8600  9000        9450  9750
Hugh Lau                9500              9700
Peter Masucci     9500                    9550  9300
David Nemovitz                9450
Jason Rogers                        9550
Travis Rosen      9650              9550        9725
Jay Thornton      9800  9500  9500  9625  9800  8850
Mike Townsend     9450              9250        9450
                 38575 38200 38425 37975 38725 38625 230525

Ohio State Univ.
                  FX    PH     R     V    PB    HB
Frank Ansevin   9200
Mike Canales    9250
Drew Durbin           9900  9625  9450  9550  9825
David Eckert                9850
Tim Elsner      9600  9400  9500  9300  8800  9525
Chad Finefrock              9625              9650
Michael Finn          9700
Peter Landry                9600        9300
Michael Morgan  9600  9500        9450  9300  9500
Neil Niemi                        9300
Doug Stibel     9450  9400        9350  9200  9200
Blain Wilson    9700  9675  9875  9700  9775  9900
               38350 38775 38975 37950 37925 38900 230875

Univ. of Oklahoma
                    FX    PH     R     V    PB    HB
Todd Bishop             8600              8950  9200
Casey Bryan       9875  9700  9300  9500  9450  9700
Chad Duncan       9550        9050  9250  8700  8850
Andrew Eddington              8800
Daniel Fink       9650  9500  9650  9400  9550  9400
Kyle Johnson      9650              9250
Jeremy Killen     9775  9625        9575  9400  9600
Josh Kramb              9550
Garon Rowland                 9600        9100  9250
Gavin Rowland     9525              9000
Matt Schoen                   9150
                 38950 38375 37700 37725 37500 37950 228200

Penn State Univ.
                    FX    PH     R     V    PB    HB
Danny Beigel                  9550
Tyson Bryant            9050
Thomas Ellefson         8450              9650  9675
Tim Lashua        8600  9250        9000  9050  9000
Roy Malka         9200  9650  9300  9000  9550  9750
Jean Marc Michel  9500        9400  9300  9450
Steve McSparren   9400  8000  9300  9400  9150  9300
Ron Roeder        9575
Joe Roemer        9750  8250  9300  9200        8600
Brandy Wood                   8650  8950  9000  8100
                 38225 36400 37550 36900 37800 37725 224600

ALL-AROUND
                  FX   PH    R    V   PB   HB  TOTAL
Blain Wilson    9700 9675 9875 9700 9775 9900 58.625  1 Ohio State Univ.
Keith Wiley     9600 9850 9550 9550 9600 9700 57.850  2 Stanford Univ.
Casey Bryan     9875 9700 9300 9500 9450 9700 57.525  3 Univ. of Oklahoma
Darren Elg      9725 9700 9300 9400 9600 9800 57.525  3 BYU
Aaron Cotter    9625 9500 9750 9150 9675 9700 57.400  5 Univ. of Iowa
David Kruse     9850 9675 9350 9550 8900 9850 57.175  6 Univ. of Calfornia
Daniel Fink     9650 9500 9650 9400 9550 9400 57.150  7 Univ. of Oklahoma
Jay Thornton    9800 9500 9500 9625 9800 8850 57.075  8 Univ. of Iowa
Jamie Ellis     9775 9550 9100 9100 9700 9750 56.975  9 Stanford Univ.
Jason Christie  9850 8750 9200 9200 9725 9875 56.600 10 Nebraska
Roy Malka       9200 9650 9300 9000 9550 9750 56.450 11 Penn State Univ.
Yuval Ayalon    9350 9400 9350 9200 9400 9450 56.150 12 Illinois
Josh Birckelbaw 9625 9300 9650 9300 8400 9850 56.125 13 Univ. of Calfornia
Tim Elsner      9600 9400 9500 9300 8800 9525 56.125 13 Ohio State Univ.
Kenny Sykes     9575 9700 8950 9050 9400 9150 55.825 15 Temple
Ethan Sterk     9400 9600 9050 9150 9300 9050 55.550 16 Michigan State
Steve McSparren 9400 8000 9300 9400 9150 9300 54.550 17 Penn State Univ.
Bill Mulholland 9150 8600 8500 9050 9450 9600 54.350 18 Nebraska
# # #

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Date:    Fri, 26 Apr 1996 01:25:42 -0700
From:    ***@NETCOM.COM
Subject: NCAA all arounders

NCAA mens gymnastics championships, stanford ca, maples pavillion, 96.Apr.25

All arounders:

school  gymnast       fx      ph      sr      vt      pb      hb    total   rnk
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(Ohio)  Wilson      9.700   9.675   9.875   9.700   9.775   9.900   58.625   1
(Stfd)  Wiley       9.600   9.850   9.550   9.550   9.600   9.700   57.850   2
(Okla)  Bryan       9.875   9.700   9.300   9.500   9.450   9.700   57.525   3
(Iowa)  Cotter      9.625   9.500   9.750   9.150   9.675   9.700   57.400   5
(Bkly)  Kruse       9.850   9.675   9.350   9.550   8.900   9.850   57.175   6
(Okla)  Fink        9.650   9.500   9.650   9.400   9.550   9.400   57.150   7
(Iowa)  Thornton    9.800   9.500   9.500   9.625   9.800   8.850   57.075   8
(Stfd)  Ellis       9.775   9.550   9.100   9.100   9.700   9.750   56.975   9
(Penn)  Malka       9.200   9.650   9.300   9.000   9.550   9.750   56.450   11
(Ohio)  Elsner      9.600   9.400   9.500   9.300   8.800   9.525   56.125   13
(Bkly)  Birckelbaw  9.625   9.300   9.650   9.300   9.400   9.850   56.125   13
(Penn)  McSparren   9.400   8.000   9.300   9.400   9.150   9.300   54.550   17

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Date:    Fri, 26 Apr 1996 02:13:08 -0700
From:    ***@NETCOM.COM
Subject: more NCAA aa data

NCAA Men Gymnastic National, Stanford CA,day1 Maples Pavillion 96.Apr.25

Last post was AA's on competing teams.
This is overall AAs including the "individuals".
This is what I MEANT to post, sorry I wasted bandwidth.


All arounders:

school     gymnast      fx      ph      sr      vt      pb      hb    total  rnk
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(Ohio) Wilson, Blain  9.700   9.675   9.875   9.700   9.775   9.900   58.625   1
(Stfd) Wiley, Keith   9.600   9.850   9.550   9.550   9.600   9.700   57.850   2
(Okla) Bryan, Casey   9.875   9.700   9.300   9.500   9.450   9.700   57.525   3
(BYU ) Elg, Darren    9.725   9.700   9.300   9.400   9.600   9.800   57.525   3
(Iowa) Cotter, Aaron  9.625   9.500   9.750   9.150   9.675   9.700   57.400   5
(Bkly) Kruse, Darren  9.850   9.675   9.350   9.550   8.900   9.850   57.175   6
(Okla) Fink, Daniel   9.650   9.500   9.650   9.400   9.550   9.400   57.150   7
(Iowa) Thornton, Jay  9.800   9.500   9.500   9.625   9.800   8.850   57.075   8
(Stfd) Ellis, Jamie   9.775   9.550   9.100   9.100   9.700   9.750   56.975   9
(Nebr) Christie, Jason 9.85   8.750   9.200   9.200   9.725   9.875   56.600  10
(Penn) Malka, Roy     9.200   9.650   9.300   9.000   9.550   9.750   56.450  11
(Ill ) Ayalon, Yuval  9.350   9.400   9.350   9.200   9.400   9.450   56.150  12
(Ohio) Elsner, Tim    9.600   9.400   9.500   9.300   8.800   9.525   56.125  13
(Bkly) Birckelbaw, Josh 9.625  9.30   9.650   9.300   9.400   9.850   56.125  13
(Tmpl) Sykes, Kenny   9.575   9.700   8.950   9.050   9.400   9.150   55.825  15
(MiSt) Sterk, Ethan   9.400   9.600   9.050   9.150   9.300   9.050   55.550  16
(Penn) McSparren, Steve 9.40  8.000   9.300   9.400   9.150   9.300   54.550  17
(Nebr) Mulholland, Bill 9.15  8.600   8.500   9.050   9.450   9.600   54.350  18

Thats it for now, Im gonna go crash.....

-texx

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Date:    Fri, 26 Apr 1996 22:05:42 +1300
From:    ***@NETACCESS.CO.NZ
Subject: Soviet dominance

In looking at the results from the Event Worlds, it is interesting to see
>the number of nations that achieved medal positions. The total dominance
>of the former U.S.S.R. nations is beginning to show a decline as other
>nations,*SNIP*
Following up on Jasons post of the 24th.

While this is true to some extent, look at the countries that are winning
the medals instead of the soviets.
Who is coaching them?
Cuba-   Trained by Russian coaches.
France-  Trained by Chinese coaches  ( and Russian?)
Another country that has shot up the ranks in the last few years include,
Australia - Russian and Chinese coaches-  (lots of them)
Nearly every team at Sabae had a Foreign coach on their team.  Romanian,
Chinese or Russian.
This is one reason  why the medals are being shared around.

Avril
If you are going to post an intro - keep it short  I pay by the volume and
my mailbox has been chokker.

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