GYMN-L Digest - 25 Jun 1996 - Special issue
There are 22 messages totalling 630 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. USA:Trials NBC coverage
2. Men's at 2:45, not 3:00pm
3. GYMN-L Digest - 24 Jun 1996 - Special issue
4. UNSUBSCRIBE GYMN-L
5. europens
6. Jaycie
7. Free Calander
8. floor music (2)
9. IG Magazine
10. Gogean floor music
11. Kim Kelly article (2)
12. Commentator complaints
13. MAG: Ita-Blr-Rom
14. unsubscribe
15. Flip-flops and mushrooms
16. Olympic Teams
17. GYMN-L Digest - 18 Jun 1996 to 19 Jun 1996
18. Nadia
19. New book on Dominique Moceanu!
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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 08:14:40 EDT
From: ***@COMPUSERVE.COM
Subject: Re: USA:Trials NBC coverage
Just to add to Rachele and Mayland's information ...
ESPN will rebroadcast the Trials starting Wednesday (it should be on a coupld
of times ... check local listings) as part of it's "Call to Glory" series.
They will use different commentators and their own "cut" (from what I
understand) meaning that it's possible, if not definate, that they will show
gymnasts that NBC does not.
-Susan
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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 07:25:11 +0000
From: ***@RMII.COM
Subject: Men's at 2:45, not 3:00pm
Please note that Men's Optionals at the Olympic Trials starts at 2:45pm on
Saturday, not 3:00pm as I posted earlier.
Thanks,
rachele
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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 08:09:27 +0200
From: ***@MERCUR.USAO.EDU
Subject: Re: GYMN-L Digest - 24 Jun 1996 - Special issue
hello everyone!
just caught the independant team championship, and I was impressed.
Finally a twisting vault. usually gymnasts are doing sumersaulting
vaults, but i was glad to see someone trying to throw a double twist.
does anyone do a straight twisting vault internationally any more?
There was an armenian girl i was impressed with, though i can't remember
her name. i like seeing gymnasts from new countries competing. does
anyone know what she made on her beam routine? my local prime sports
never said in the broadcast, and does anyone know if she'll be doing
college gymnastics?
in next weeks tv guide guess who says he's going to do gymnastic coverage.
at the olympics. you guessed it, john tesh.
and i was plesently surprised that nbc is going to show compulsorys.
i know a lot of people don't like them, but when i did gymnastics, i
loved them.
about nelli kim not finding a job in america. that's sad. when i did
gymnastics in the late 70's i remember she was the big soviet name in
gymnastics, and i actualy liked her better then nadia. I hope she finds
work soon.
about amy chow being too young for the olympics.
i remember that being talked about a couple of weeks ago, and tonights
local news had a story about an asian gymnast that was about a week too
young to go to the olympic trials, so she stayed a junior this year.
that gymnast is mina kim.
she trains in edmond oklahoma. perhaps the reader made a mistake in
thinking it was amy. i do remember steve nuno making a huge deal out of
trying to get her waved from the age requirement.
on monday i'm getting a new cable station called clasic sports, does
anyone know if they show gymnastics on it?
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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 23:45:46 +1000
From: ***@OZEMAIL.COM.AU
Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE GYMN-L
Scott
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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 08:57:55 +0200
From: ***@MERCUR.USAO.EDU
Subject: europens
i forgot to put a couple of things in my last posting.
at the europens, they talked about using a "new spring form beam" this
beam looked different, as it seemed to be raised a bit above the posts
holding it. the beam had a noticable wobble to it. everytime someone did
a trick, the beam would sway back and forth. before you think i'm making
this up, it was my non-gymnastic fan husband who noticed it.
i loved pods new fx. and i loved the russian turns in it. it was fresh
and original.
i am so glad miller finally gave up that old rutine of hers, i got so
tired of it, when i watch tapes of gymnastics, i fast forwards through
it. she used her music almost as long as kathy johnson-clarke's dying
swan music.
i'm glad that the older gymnasts are finally becomeing popular again.
another thing to add to the drinking game.
take a large drink everytime Kathy johnson-clarke starts to rave about
how wonderful the chinese are now,
and take another drink when she starts to rave about how inventive they are.
take another drink when she starts going on about how the judges
underscore china all the time.
but be careful, you could get drunk really fast if there are lots of
chinese gymnasts, and johnson-clarke is comentating!
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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 08:44:42 +0000
From: ***@EARTHLINK.NET
Subject: Jaycie
I have to stick up for Jaycie Phelps vault. I happen to love Jaycie. The
reason I think she doesn't use a Yurchenko style vault is because she is an
excellent front tumbler. As you can see with her front tumbling on floor.
This makes her perfect for the hands on first vaults. I doubt very much if
she is afraid of a vault, she could also break her neck on alot of other
skills she is performing. I've done both style vaults and I feel the hands on
first vaults are much harder to perform. They take much more power in the
run and the Yurchenko vaults are more in the perfect timing and a perfect
round off. Now I'm sort of happy they devaulued the front vaults it makes my
vaulting workouts much easier. bye vanessa
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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 09:29:42 -0700
From: ***@SEATTLEU.EDU
Subject: Free Calander
Does anybody remember that free calander offer a few weeks ago? Has
anybody received theirs yet? Please let me know!! Thanks.
Corrie ;)
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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 13:14:24 EDT
From: ***@BBN.COM
Subject: Re: floor music
Michele writes:
>As for Worst Floor Music, well, Phoebe Mills did 'Venus' before the '88
>Olympics and at the '88 Olympics she did this 'Addams Family' mix with
>some goofy song spliced in--I hated them both!!! Perhaps a more
^^^^^^^^^^
For the record, this was a cut from "Red River Rock," a 1950's or perhaps
early 1960's rock 'n' roll version of "Red River Valley."
The boogied-up Nutcracker Suite that was mentioned earlier is also
a rock 'n' roll instrumental from the same period. I believe it's
by the same group that gave us "Bumble Boogie" (a boogie version
of Rimsky-Korsakov's "Flight of the Bumblebee")--B Bumble and the
Stingers. (As Dave Barry would say, I swear I am not making this up.)
With all the fine rock 'n' roll instrumentals available, why certain
ones get used instead is beyond me.
>>Kathy, who actually owns all these records, but can't
check the info right now from work
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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 14:26:14 EDT
From: ***@DISCH3.DISC.DLA.MIL
Subject: IG Magazine
Good afternoon, everyone!! Kind of a dumb question, I know, but here goes,
anyway!!
Is *International Gymnast* magazine still around? If so, what is their
subscription address/rates, since I'm interested in subscribing.
Thanks in advance, and you can reply privately, if you wish.
Felicia
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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:20:10 -0700
From: ***@GOODNET.COM
Subject: Gogean floor music
Does anyone know the title for the music Gina Gogean uses in her floor ex.?
Personally, I think Gina's and Mo's music are the best Floor ex. music being
used now.
Christine
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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 14:28:02 -0400
From: ***@GRFN.ORG
Subject: Re: floor music
I liked Phoebe Mill's floor music...and the choreography. Maybe I am in
the minority here, but I thought it was a great routine. She looked a
lot older than 15 and she really sold the routine with a sincere smile.
BTW, when are women's trials being broadcast this weekend? I must've
missed something here, because I thought they were being broadcast
Saturday at 3 p.m.
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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 16:35:08 -0400
From: ***@MAIL.FIRN.EDU
Subject: Kim Kelly article
I would like to receive the article about Kim Kelly.
Also, I cannot believe that Tesh and Schlegel get to ruin the broadcast of
the summer games. They, too, make me SICK!
Gary
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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 15:50:48 -0700
From: ***@MARLIN.UTMB.EDU
Subject: Re: Kim Kelly article
>
> I would like to receive the article about Kim Kelly.
> Also, I cannot believe that Tesh and Schlegel get to ruin the broadcast of
> the summer games. They, too, make me SICK!
> Gary Powell
Well, you may be in luck! I heard on the radio this morning that there is a
group of
people out there who think John Tesh is an alien and they are trying to get him
removed
from television. Seems like he's here to spy or something...
I didn't make this up.
Hmmmm.
Joel
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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 16:11:14 CDT
From: ***@PROCTR.CBA.UA.EDU
Subject: Commentator complaints
Since a lot of people have bashed all of the commentators who have
done the Olympics, USA's, ect... John, Elfi, Tim, Maura..........
I would like to know who you would like to take their place. There
aren't a whole lot of choices.
I don't think anyone will ever meet everyone's expectations and
nobody is perfect.
Press the mute button.
I know. How about Mary Carillo.
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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 23:54:30 +0200
From: ***@MICRONET.IT
Subject: MAG: Ita-Blr-Rom
You can now find the result of this competition, held in San Benedetto del
Tronto (Italy) during the last weekend, at this site:
http://www.nbn.it/itagym/uomini/incontri/tronto.html
Belarus won the team competition, even if Scherbo and Ivankov did not
compete for the AA (technical choice).
Jury Chechi won the All-Around.
It was the last test for the italian team before Atlanta. These are the
members for the OG:
Marcello Barbieri
Paolo Bucci
Francesco Colombo
Jury Chechi
Roberto Galli
Sergio Luini
Boris Preti.
Andrea Massucchi, silver medalist on vault in San Juan (WC), will not be
there. He has a serious injury at the right shoulder.
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Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 02:36:31 GMT
From: ***@INNET.BE
Subject: unsubscribe
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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 21:09:54 -0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Flip-flops and mushrooms
In a message dated 96-06-25 21:08:15 EDT, you write:
Recently, I've noticed you talking about flip-flops and mushrooms. What is
a mushroom (in gymnastics, of course)? When you talk about a flip flop are
you talking about a back-handspring? If so, I thought that a back-handspring
was called a flick-flack; not flip-flop. I'm probably wrong. If a
flick-flack isn't a back-handspring, then what is it?
-Andrew
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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 21:39:31 -0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Olympic Teams
Does anyone know the official olympic teams for Romania, Ukraine, Russia,
and China?
Have they been announced?
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Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:47:23 +1000
From: ***@ENTERNET.COM.AU
Subject: Re: GYMN-L Digest - 18 Jun 1996 to 19 Jun 1996
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>Subject: WAG : Australian Olympic team
>
>Just announced in the last coupla days :
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>Kirsty Leigh Brown (NSW)
>Jade Davidson (QLD)
>Joanna Hughes (VIC)
>Ruth Moniz (NSW)
>Lisa Moro (VIC)
>Lisa Skinner (QLD)
>Jenny Smith (WA)
>
>Congratulations to all these girls. I wouldn't be surprised if they move up
>a couple of places in the team event (from 12th at Sabae), assuming they all
>hit.
>
>The two gymnasts who got cut from the squad were Nicole Kantek and Genevieve
>Preston. Nicole is the current Australian champion, but I must say her form
>leaves a lot to be desired.
>
>Hopefully Jenny Smith will stay healthy for the Games, as she has missed
>Worlds and Commonwealth Games through injury in the last couple of years.
>
>Simone.
>
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>Jade Davidson has just retired over the weekend and gone back home to
Queensland. She had a very bad back and an injured foot so there was not
much she could do and the institute coaches claim that she was mentally
unstable. It has not been said yet weather it will be Nicole Kantek or
Genevieve Preston to take her place but it is looking hopeful for both of
them. Kirsty Leigh Brown is still not doing full training. She has a mat
over the horse, mats on beam and floor. It is ridiculous if they still take
her, there are 2 perfectly fit gymnasts training their butt off and she
turns up and does strength all training. I can't see how she is going to be
of any benefit to the team like this. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
>End of GYMN-L Digest - 18 Jun 1996 to 19 Jun 1996
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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 19:03:54 -0700
From: ***@IX.NETCOM.COM
Subject: Nadia
Hey guys!
Well, this evening we have had the unfortunate experience of trying to
meet Nadia Commaneci. We ended up waiting in line for over an hour and
when we could finally see the podium where she sat to sign autographs,
she was escorted out. We were so upset! She didn't even wave or
anything to the 30 people who had waited so long to meet her. SHe just
walked away. We were so mad. She took so long to sign each persons
autograph and the workers at McAlphins came up with about 4 different
stories on why Nadia had to leave.
We understand that Nadia didn't have a lot of say in what was
happening, but IMHO I think that if a huge crowd came to meet her, she
should at least have enough courtesy to walk by and shake hands or wave
and say she is sorry to go. Instead a bunch of abnoxious workers
stuffed printed autographed posters in our face and said Nadia had a
plane to catch and various other stories such as she was getting worn
out and lack of energy.
She just kind of got up and didn't even look back at the 20 people
(aproximatly) who had wait more than an hour to meet her.
I have lost a lot of respect for Nadia. Many people think that Mary Lou
Retton was an awful gymnast and didn;t deserve a gold, but Mary Lou is
100% better with her personality. She was extremely friendly when I met
her and she stayed to meet every one. Nadia didn't even act like she
cared. Fans don't even seem to matter too much for her. I was overall
disapointed with Nadia. I skipped my gymnastics class and wasted a
whole evening just to get a picture of about 5 bodyguards/policemen
escorting her majesty out of the building.
We just thought we would warn anyone who wants to go to a mall to see
her.
Bye!
M & M
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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 22:01:54 -0500
From: ***@PRODIGY.COM
Subject: New book on Dominique Moceanu!
The Bradford Book Company is pleased to announce the upcoming
publication of
DOMINIQUE MOCEANU: A Gymnastics Sensation, a biography by Krista
Quiner that details
Dominique s thrilling gymnastics career from infancy when she hung
from a clothesline as if it
were a parallel bar to adolescence and a national championship.
While presenting unique
perspectives and commentary from a variety of sources, the book
discusses her meteoric rise
from level 5 to elite in only two years and her fight to reach her
lifelong goal of winning a gold
medal at the Olympics.
Packed with quotes, touching stories, and striking photographs, the
biography affords
readers a look behind the scenes at the life of this amazing young
athlete. This positive but
truthful story explores the family pressures she faced, the difficult
adjustments she endured
switching to Bela Karolyi s gym, and her struggle to overcome
injuries. It also recounts how
Dominique fought to become one of the best gymnasts in the United
States and make the 1996
Olympic team.
The author of the book, Krista Quiner, has an extensive background
in gymnastics that
she drew upon to produce this biography. She was a competitive
gymnast for fifteen years, and
she received a gymnastics scholarship to the University of Denver, an
NCAA Division I school,
where she set a school record on the floor exercise. Quiner has
written two other titles in this
genre, KIM ZMESKAL: Determination to Win and SHANNON MILLER:
America s Most
Decorated Gymnast. If you would like to ask the author a question,
her e-mail address is
taca41b@prodigy.com.
DOMINIQUE MOCEANU: A Gymnastics Sensation will be available in
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information contact
Sherry Davis at (201) 884-7209.
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