GYMN-L Digest - 24 Feb 1996 to 25 Feb 1996

There are 14 messages totalling 440 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

1. JO Class 3 PH - new interpretation (forward) (2)
2. Florida vs. LSU (2)
3. TV Alert (Canada)
4. When is it on tv? -Peachtree Invitational
5. When is it on? - Peachtree Invitational
6. NBC's "stride to glory"
7. Kodak Invite
8. Lavinia Milosovici
9. Peactree
10. Nadia in New York
11. Jennie Thompson's Vault
12. John Naber commentary at Kodak Invite

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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 04:46:34 -0800
From: ***@NETCOM.COM
Subject: JO Class 3 PH - new interpretation (forward)

Hey Gymn,

Ken is having trouble posting and asked me to post the following for him.

Debbie

Forwarded message:
> Subject: JO Class 3 PH - new interpretation
>
> Sorry if this is a repost for you. I has trouble psoting this to
> Gymn, along with sending to individuals. We want to get to all
> coaches and officals as quickly as possible since this is in effect
> currently, and states regionals, and nationals are coming up quickly.
>
> February 23, 1996
> From: Dr. Hal Frey, Ken Achiron, Jim Leo, Brian Richmond, Paul
> Tickenoff (NGJA - JO Tech Comm)
>
> Please make note of the following information, some of which was not
> widely circulated previously and is in effect currently.
>
> 1. The following change on Pommel Horse was approved by the JOPC at
> the May Nationals in Oakland Ca:
>
> In Class 3 Pommel Horse, the Stockli B required skill has been
> changed to: "Any 3 hand-placement skill on 1 pommel (the same
> pommel), of B or greater value, performed behind the back." Examples
> of some skills that satisfy this requirement are: 2 pommel loops,
> Stockli B, Bailie, 3/4 Bailie, or pommel circle. A Russian on 1 pommel
> does not satisfy this requirement since it is performed in front of
> the body.
>
> Additional clarifications:
>
> 1. There is a general requirement in optional pommel horse that all 3
> parts of the horse must be worked. Failure to satisfy this requirement
> results in a 0.2 deduction from execution. To satisfy this
> requirement, at least 1 whole part of "A" value must be performed on
> that part of the horse.
>
> General
>
> 1. In Class 3 and Class 4 competition, an exercise that is short parts
> will incur a 0.8 deduction from execution for each missing value part.
> This is not the case for Class 1 or Class 2 competition. Missing value
> parts in Class 1 and Class2 will result in a deduction in "difficulty"
> as per FIG. There is no deduction in execution for missing value parts
> in Class 1 or Class 2.
>
> Thanks to Jim Leo for passing these on.

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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 11:58:44 -0500
From: ***@DELPHI.COM
Subject: Florida vs. LSU

Gymners,

Does anyone know what time the Prime Network will be showing the Fl vs.
LSU met on Sunday (Feb. 25)? Thanks.

Gymnastically ours,
Dave

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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 11:46:50 -0600
From: ***@SASKNET.SK.CA
Subject: TV Alert (Canada)

The documentary show "Rough Cuts" on CBC Newsworld channel will
be airing a one-hour gymnastics documentary. The program will
be aired Monday Feb.26 at 10pm EST and Saturday Mar.02 at 9pm EST.

Check your local listings, as usual...

>From the CBC Newsworld web page:

>>"Competitive Gymnastics"
>>(Premiere)
>>Woodfall Comm. (John Thomson/Beth Stewart)
>>Pressures on tiny athletes
>>Feb.26 & Mar.02


It sounds like it might be the usual anti-gymnastics (eating disorders, etc.)
though I'm told it focuses on Kim Allen of the Omega Gym Club in Vancouver
preparing for Elite Canada held December '95 in Toronto.

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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 10:47:07 -0800
From: ***@IX.NETCOM.COM
Subject: Re: When is it on tv? -Peachtree Invitational

You wrote:
>
> I think that I read that the Kodak Invite
>is on some time this weekend but I can't remember when, does anyone
>know anything abou this????
>
>
> Laura
>
You wrote:
>
> I think that I read that the Kodak Invite
>is on some time this weekend but I can't remember when, does anyone
>know anything abou this????
>
>
> Laura
>
You wrote:
>
> I think that I read that the Kodak Invite
>is on some time this weekend but I can't remember when, does anyone
>know anything abou this????
>
>
> Laura
>
You wrote:
>
> I think that I read that the Kodak Invite
>is on some time this weekend but I can't remember when, does anyone
>know anything abou this????
>
>
> Laura
>
You wrote:
>
> I think that I read that the Kodak Invite
>is on some time this weekend but I can't remember when, does anyone
>know anything abou this????
>
>
> Laura
>
You wrote:
>
> I think that I read that the Kodak Invite
>is on some time this weekend but I can't remember when, does anyone
>know anything abou this????
>
>
> Laura
>

You wrote:
>
> I think that I read that the Kodak Invite
>is on some time this weekend but I can't remember when, does anyone
>know anything abou this????
>
>
> Laura
>

You wrote:
>
> I think that I read that the Kodak Invite
>is on some time this weekend but I can't remember when, does anyone
>know anything abou this????
>
>
> Laura
>

You wrote:
>
> I think that I read that the Kodak Invite
>is on some time this weekend but I can't remember when, does anyone
>know anything abou this????
>
>
> Laura
>

You wrote:
>
> I think that I read that the Kodak Invite
>is on some time this weekend but I can't remember when, does anyone
>know anything abou this????
>
>
> Laura
>

The Peachtree Invitational is on Saturday, February 23 on ESPN at
7:00pm central time.

Kerri
:)

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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 10:53:00 -0800
From: ***@IX.NETCOM.COM
Subject: Re: When is it on? - Peachtree Invitational

Oops! I meant to say Saturday, February 24/ESPN/7:00pm central time.
Sorry for any confusion! Time is going by so quickly that I'm lost
track of the date!!

Kerri

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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 14:59:59 -0600
From: ***@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU
Subject: NBC's "stride to glory"

Well, I think that is what it was titled. It was a salute to American
african-americans who competed in the olympics and won medals.

Anyhow, shame on NBC. While they managed to mention Charles Lakes for
Seoul and Dominique Dawes in Barcelona, they completely ignored
Betty Okino, who made event and all-around finals. *sigh* If they
were gonna do it, they could've been complete.

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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 13:34:11 -0800
From: ***@NETCOM.COM
Subject: JO Class 3 PH - new interpretation (forward)

Hey Gymn,

Ken is having trouble posting and asked me to forward the attached to the
list.

Debbie

--begin forwarded message--


Sorry if this is a repost for you. I has trouble psoting this to
Gymn, along with sending to individuals. We want to get to all
coaches and officals as quickly as possible since this is in effect
currently, and states regionals, and nationals are coming up quickly.

February 23, 1996
From: Dr. Hal Frey, Ken Achiron, Jim Leo, Brian Richmond, Paul
Tickenoff (NGJA - JO Tech Comm)

Please make note of the following information, some of which was not
widely circulated previously and is in effect currently.

1. The following change on Pommel Horse was approved by the JOPC at
the May Nationals in Oakland Ca:

In Class 3 Pommel Horse, the Stockli B required skill has been
changed to: "Any 3 hand-placement skill on 1 pommel (the same
pommel), of B or greater value, performed behind the back." Examples
of some skills that satisfy this requirement are: 2 pommel loops,
Stockli B, Bailie, 3/4 Bailie, or pommel circle. A Russian on 1 pommel
does not satisfy this requirement since it is performed in front of
the body.

Additional clarifications:

1. There is a general requirement in optional pommel horse that all 3
parts of the horse must be worked. Failure to satisfy this requirement
results in a 0.2 deduction from execution. To satisfy this
requirement, at least 1 whole part of "A" value must be performed on
that part of the horse.

General

1. In Class 3 and Class 4 competition, an exercise that is short parts
will incur a 0.8 deduction from execution for each missing value part.
This is not the case for Class 1 or Class 2 competition. Missing value
parts in Class 1 and Class2 will result in a deduction in "difficulty"
as per FIG. There is no deduction in execution for missing value parts
in Class 1 or Class 2.

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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 20:30:30 -0600
From: ***@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU
Subject: Kodak Invite

I'm not going to make too much commentary, but there are a few things
I wanted to say.

1) Jennie Thompson looks good, but she has a lot of form stuff to clean
up. However, I've got to say she had some terrific tricks, most
notably that bar dismount. Y8ikes...

2) No doubt I will get flamed for this, but the more of Steve Nunno I
see, the more I dislike him. It seems like he does everything for the
sake of the camera. The athletes are on display, not him...

3) I finally got to see Alecia Ingram. I liked her alot. Nice form, nice
grace. As for most of the atheltes here, I'd like to see them at
full difficulty. I know most weren't

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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 19:59:15 -0400
From: ***@HALCYON.COM
Subject: Lavinia Milosovici

I am sure that I am not the only one Milosovici fan on this list. So
please, if you have information on her (on everything) e-mail me.
Thank you and I hope I will have some e-mail...
Chloe.

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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 23:03:14 -0500
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Peactree

Just a few comments about this competition:

Mina Kim- I thought that she looked good. I wonder what would have happened
had she not fallen on beam?

Does anyone know what Jenny Thompson's floor routine was worth? It seeme4d
that it wasn't even worth a 9.825- how could the judges think of that score.

The Dynamno team is full fo depth. WOW

Shannon looks good and happy, but it seems that Steve doesn't seem to think
that she is able to win the Olympics.

I am going to kill Maura Driscoll. How does she breathe? She is the most
unknowledgebal person I have ever seen.

Just my 2 cents,

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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 23:37:09 -0500
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Nadia in New York

I, too, heard about this PR thing, and happened to find out that my gym
rented a beam to Lord and Taylor to use for the exhibition. A particular
little story about the exhibition which I thought everyone might like was
that during the show, someone told Nadia to stand by the beam, and she
thought they meant "sign the beam", so she took out her marker and signed the
beam in giant letters. I heard about this when, on Friday night, I was
walking by the beams and I happened to see that one of my gym's beams managed
to end up with a giant "Nadia Comaneci" signature on it!
----Lisa

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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 23:42:14 -0500
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Jennie Thompson's Vault

I just finished watching the Peach Tree Invitational and I was wondering what
her vault was scored as. Maura Driscoll, who can never be counted on for
accurate information, seemed to think she was doing the Kristeava (I know I
spelled that one wrong.) vault, but the twist came far to late for it to be
technically correct. Is the vault Jennie did harder or easier? Does anyone
know if that is the same vault she did at the American Classic?

Thanks,
LeeAnn

PS I was amazed to see that Maura Driscoll is a much better interviewer than
commentator.

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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 21:22:36 -0700
From: ***@ASU.EDU
Subject: John Naber commentary at Kodak Invite

JN's comment that Shannon Miller was "an inbred competitor" had me
ROTFL! (He meant "inborn competitor".) I like him though, as the
nonexpert commentator, he's much more unobtrusive than John Tesh (ick) or
Dan Hicks.

Leslie

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Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 01:56:23 -0500
From: ***@GNATNET.NET
Subject: Re: Florida vs. LSU

I don't know anything about Primesports showing FL v. Lousiana State,
but ESPN will be broadcasting it on Monday, Feb. 26 at 4pm EST.
Kerry

>
> Gymners,
>
> Does anyone know what time the Prime Network will be showing the Fl vs.
> LSU met on Sunday (Feb. 25)? Thanks.
>
> Gymnastically ours,
> Dave

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