GYMN-L Digest - 15 Sep 1995 to 16 Sep 1995

There are 14 messages totalling 355 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. trials questions
  2. World Championship Trials Women (2)
  3. Trivia #32
  4. GYMN-L Digest - 3 Sep 1995 to 4 Sep 1995 (2)
  5. Women's team...and men's too
  6. Moceanu's floor
  7. Eating disorders, and something else
  8. Moceanu
  9. 1996 Worlds
 10. Moceanu's floor/moceanu
 11. UKR men's team for Sabae
 12. NYTimes says Dawes out with injury


Date:    Fri, 15 Sep 1995 23:51:13 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: trials questions

Sorry to be a bit gymnastics illiterate here, but could someone explain to me
Amy Chow's new move on the bars. I can't picture it.

Also, what did Moceanu change to make her routine at 10.0 at trials when it
was out of a 9.9 at Nationals.

And another also, is Borden definitely not going to Worlds?



Date:    Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:39:24 PDT
From:    ***@LSS.CO.ZA
Subject: Re: World Championship Trials Women

What is a Jaeger-1/2? That sounds impossible!!!


Date:    Thu, 7 Sep 1995 18:39:33 PDT
From:    ***@LSS.CO.ZA
Subject: Trivia #32

How do you get a 10.6 and a 10.2?


Date:    Sat, 16 Sep 1995 06:50:02 -0600
From:    ***@RMII.COM
Subject: Re: World Championship Trials Women

| What is a Jaeger-1/2? That sounds impossible!!!
| Helen.

Well, it certainly is a hard move to picture and I don't think it's
any easier to explain than a full-twisting Tkatchev, which I couldn't
picture until I saw it.  For the Jaegar 1/2, Kulikowski does a
straddled Jaeger and then quickly inserts a half twist as she is
catching the bar.



Date:    Sat, 16 Sep 1995 10:07:00 -0400
From:    ***@DELPHI.COM
Subject: Re: GYMN-L Digest - 3 Sep 1995 to 4 Sep 1995

Hey again,

Here's my flight and hotel information:

Arr. Osaka Kansai Mon. Sept. 25th at 1:20pm on United Flt
#UA809 from San Francisco
Dep. Osaka Kansai Tue. Oct. 10 at 6:00pm on United Flt #UA810
to San Francisco

Barbados delegation accomodations through FIG are at the:
Fukui Palace Inn. 1-12-17 Junka Kukui-Shi, 910.
Tel 0776-23-3801
Fax 0776-23-3729

Chubby & Linda will be at the:
 Hotel Sun Route Hikone
9-14 Asahi Cho Hikone City, Shiga 522
Tel 0749-26-0123
Fax 0749-26-0686

I haven't been to Japan since I was a little boy.  I'm really
looking forward to the trip.  Hope to see ya there!  We've got
some catching up to do.

Well, I finally wrote that team handbook I always said I would.
 I'll bring a copy along for your light reading enjoyment.

I have to say that I'm quite envious of your plan for in-flight
entertainment.  Sure as hell has my plan beat!  I think several
good books and a discman are called for.

To answer a few of your questions, Kerry Adderly is doing
great.  He will be at the regional ODP testing in Tallahassee
while we are in Japan.  John has done a super job preparing the
three boys in regional testing(Kerry, Matt Clark, Kendall
Cleveland).  Aaron is Aaron... like I said before.  The real
story lately is Mark Scheidegg.  The boy is possessed... In a
good way!  He is really on fire lately.  He's going to even
have a strong Pommel horse set.  Let me give you a brief
run-down on his new skills:

Floor -         Whip Double full (really nice)
        Whip double back
        Front layout, Front Full
        Pike Double (very high)
P. horse        Connor travel to immediate russian on end
        Tong fei (very consistant in combination)
        pommel russian
        stockli B
Rings   Whippet
Vault   Handspring front
P. bars Stutz hand (consistent)
        back toss
        diamidov (not consistent)
H. bar  1/2 higgins to eagles (every time)
        gienger (very consistent)
        Pike double

Needless to say... the boy is on fire.  He'll definitely be a
top contender this year... who'd a thought!?!

welp, gotta run to the gym & squeeze in another two weeks worth
of work into this week!

See ya soon!



Date:    Sat, 16 Sep 1995 10:18:41 -0500
Subject: Women's team...and men's too

Date sent:  16-SEP-1995 10:17:07

When will the US decide the status of who is competing for
them, for both teams? I know the men are selecting one from
numbers 7 and 8, and the women are waiting on injuries.

And, for that matter, any rumor/confirmations on who will be
competing for Romania or Russia for the women?


Date:    Sat, 16 Sep 1995 12:50:24 -0400
From:    ***@ZEUS.TOWSON.EDU
Subject: Re: Moceanu's floor

        I believe that Dominique will be fine after puberty.  Granted
some athletes simply can't overcome the physical changes.  There are some
athletes like Shannon Miller who have adjusted well.  One of the big
reasons for this is the drive she has for gymnastics.  Dominique has a
huge drive also.
        Mikester Bee

On Fri, 15 Sep 1995, No Name wrote:

> I remember reading in IG that at the Visa Challenge Dominique Moceanu was so
> excited to hit her second toumbling run that she jumped for joy at the end.
>  The audience seemed to think it was really cute, so maybe Bela decided to
> have her do it everytime.
> Also, I think the comparison between Moceanu and Kristy Phillips is very
> interesting.  I personally don't think Moceanu will last past puberty, and I
> think what happened to Kristy could very well happen to Dominique.
> Liz : - )


Date:    Sat, 16 Sep 1995 12:20:19 -0500
Subject: Eating disorders, and something else

Date sent:  16-SEP-1995 12:16:25

I was discussing eating disorders with the women's swim coach at
my school last week, and he made a suggestion when I mentioned we
were arguing that they should not show weight which I thought was
pretty good. Why don't we write to the networks and protest them
showing this information? it might not do all that much good, but
then again, it might. Email might work too.

On the same note, I was watching a show on eating disorders a few
years back, and when we were discussing african-american gymnasts
last week, I was reminded of something. One of the athletes they
mentioned was someone who made the 1980 Olympic team, and was black.
was that Luci Collins?

Finally, I remember watching a broadcast way way WAY back when and
someone was attempting a triple turn on beam. She fell, and did
not gt credit, even though she did complete the skill. I'm just curious
if this was Dana Dobransky, and whether it was the 1987 nationals.


Date:    Sat, 16 Sep 1995 14:23:16 -0400
From:    ***@STYX.IOS.COM
Subject: Re: Moceanu

        For some reason I think that after the Olympics Moceanu may stop
competing. During one of the interviews on tv she said something that
sounded like she would quit, but she'll only be 14 at that point.  Oh
well, I guess we'll have to wait and see what she decides.



Date:    Sat, 16 Sep 1995 15:32:11 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: 1996 Worlds

     Does anyone know the exact dates for the 1996 World Championships?  I
also need to know how to get tickets.  Thanks in advance! ;)
                                 Dawn :)


Date:    Sat, 16 Sep 1995 16:25:56 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Moceanu's floor/moceanu

Shannon Miller was able to continue to compete past puberty because of the
style of her gymnastics.  Her dance, which at every age has been her strong
point, was only enhanced by maturity.  Granted, it was through her drive as a
competetor that she was able to continue her tumbling at a high level.  Do
you really think that Moceanu's cutesy style will still work when she begins
to look like a woman?  All I mean is that if, heaven forbid, Dominique were
to hit puberty between now and the olympics, it could be the demise of her
gymnastics career, as it was Kristy Phillip's.
Liz :-)


Date:    Sat, 16 Sep 1995 17:55:35 -0400
Subject: UKR men's team for Sabae

     Here is the confirmed list (as of today) of the Ukraine's men's team for
Worlds: Korobchinsky, Misyutin, Sharipov, Shamenko, Yermakov, Svetlichny and
Kosyak. :) They held an intrasquad to determine the 7th gymnast, and Oleg
Kosyak beat out Andrei Stepanchenko (and others?). Anyway, unless they make any
changes in a week, when they leave for Sabae, that is the team. Tidbits of
info: Korobchinsky is recovering from a nearly broken finger. He hit it on
p-bars doing a somi about 3 weeks ago. It wasn't actually broken, but Oleg said
it turned completely blue and Igor has only been able to do light workouts.
Misyutin is supposedly only doing 3 events in compulsories (floor, rings and
vault) since, according to Oleg, he "doesn't know how to do the other
routines." I find this a little odd, but it's what Oleg said. Misyutin WILL do
all 6 in optionals, but it seems to me that this 3-event compo thing
automatically keeps him out of AA, doesn't it? Oleg said he didn't the rules...
I'm just confused - why would UKR keep its best gymnast out of AA on purpose?
Well, we'll see. I asked Oleg what he thought the team's chances were, and he
said he was worried about China. I reminded him that there'd be compulsories
this time, unlike Dortmund, and also told him that China is competing in the
first round of the first session, while UKR drew the last round of the last
session. He hadn't known this, and was pretty excited and said, "oh, well then
maybe we have a chance!" It was very cute. But he's also worried about
     I asked him about the UKR women's team, and he said he had absolutely no
idea who's on it. Strange, but true.
     He was very interested in who'd be competing for the US. I told him the
men's team, and said the women's team was up in the air because of injuries. He
specifically asked about Dominique Dawes, so I'm guessing she must be his
favorite. He was sad to learn about her injured wrist. I told him Shannon
should be there, plus our new national champion, Dominique Moceanu. He seemed
really interested in seeing her.
     I think that's about it. I'm SO glad he made the team, but am disappointed
about this Misyutin situation. Hopefully Oleg made a mistake...



Date:    Sat, 16 Sep 1995 18:05:04 -0400
Subject: NYTimes says Dawes out with injury

The New York Times had an article this morning, with a picture of
Shannon Miller on beam and a commentary on the relatively large
number of "older" gymnasts from a variety of countries who were
expected to do well at Sabae -- and mentioned, in passing,
without any elaboration on what had happened, that Dominique
Dawes was not going due to injury, moving Theresa Kulikowski
(sp?) into the missing spot.

Anybody know anything further?



Date:    Sat, 16 Sep 1995 20:05:52 -0400
Subject: Re: GYMN-L Digest - 3 Sep 1995 to 4 Sep 1995

> P. horse        Connor travel to immediate russian on end
>         Tong fei (very consistant in combination)
>         pommel russian
>         stockli B
 Could someone please elaborate on these moves?!?  THanks!

LAura :)


End of GYMN-L Digest - 15 Sep 1995 to 16 Sep 1995