GYMN-L Digest - 10 Jan 1996 to 11 Jan 1996

There are 18 messages totalling 554 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. NCAA
  2. TV ALERT (2)
  3. North American Int'l Auto Show
  4. Kerri Strug
  5. Reese's Cup
  6. I want to learn more about gymn!
  7. Unsolicited e-mail ads
  8. IRC for Unix boxes
  9. Elite Regional
 10. Gymn-l Collegiate Update V.1, no. 5
 11. 1996 North Shore Invite (W)
 12. Can't find IRC
 13. RESULTS: '95 Kawasaki Cup
 14. '95 JPN Nationals
 15. USOC Sportswoman of the Year
 16. Introduction


Date:    Tue, 9 Jan 1996 23:15:24 -0500
From:    ***@GROVE.IUP.EDU
Subject: NCAA

I read in my local paper that the NCAA was going to re-establish it's
governance. Can anyone tell me more? I think it was something about letting big
programs have more control over their money.




Date:    Wed, 10 Jan 1996 11:37:12 -0500
Subject: Re: TV ALERT

 Does anyone know when and where the show "The Road To U.S. Olympic Gold"
will air?  I've looked in my TV guide and can't find it listed anywhere
on Saturday the13.

Thanks -- Kiki


Date:    Wed, 10 Jan 1996 12:02:35 -0500
Subject: North American Int'l Auto Show

I believe this show is coming to St. Louis on
Jan. 24-28.  I don't know if the gymnasts are
coming, but assuming they are, what would be
the best time to see them?  I doubt they will
be there all the time.


Date:    Wed, 10 Jan 1996 13:01:19 EST
From:    ***@EOS.NCSU.EDU
Subject: Re: TV ALERT

>  Does anyone know when and where the show "The Road To U.S. Olympic Gold"
> will air?  I've looked in my TV guide and can't find it listed anywhere
> on Saturday the13.
> Thanks -- Kiki

It's a syndicated show, so you have to "check local listings" as they
say.  One of our local NBC affiliates carries it here in North Carolina.
Maybe your local NBC has it.  You might try and check on Sunday, too.



Date:    Wed, 10 Jan 1996 12:49:10 -0600
Subject: Kerri Strug

According to USA Today Kerri Strug has returned to Karolyi's to obtain
more intensive training before the Olympics.  Karolyi thinks that Kerri
will have a great year and that it would be a disaster for the US if she
were not on the Olympic team.



Date:    Wed, 10 Jan 1996 11:02:11 -0800
Subject: Reese's Cup

Does anyone know who is scheduled to compete at the Reese's Cup in
Portland, OR on Jan 27?



Date:    Wed, 10 Jan 1996 15:51:50 -0500
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: I want to learn more about gymn!

I have never taken any gymnastic classes, nor do I have any friends or
relatives that do.  But I've been trying to follow the sport as closely as TV
coverage permits for about four years now, and I've been on this list for
about half a year.  I've learned some of the fairly basic terms and moves
(layouts, pikes, somersaults), but I want to learn MORE!  I have trouble
following a lot of the technical questions and answers on this list.  I know
I must take it upon myself to expand my knowledge so that I can enjoy the
sport more.  But I don't really know how best to do this.  I realize that I'm
not going to pick up on a whole lot more by watching TV, because my eyes and
brain aren't trained well enough to pick up a lot of the things you folks
can.  I'm going to start some magazine subscriptions.  A young guy like me
would probably cause some alarm hanging out at the local gym if I don't have
a relative there taking/teaching classes (which, in this day and age, is
understandable.)  Any ideas or suggestions?  Thanx!

Dave the Watchdog


Date:    Wed, 10 Jan 1996 15:51:54 -0500
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Unsolicited e-mail ads

Rachele and the rest of the gymn-l group,

I got quite a few responses to my mail about the unsolicited e-mail ads.
 Thanks to one and all who responded.  It's unanimous, this is an AOL
problem.  If the tone of my mail seemed a little harsh, it's that I was
hoping these online services would give me a chance to escape all the
commercialism in the media.  Alas, I was too naive.  It probably won't do me
any good, but I'm going to bring this up to the AOL folks.  Wish me luck!

Dave the Watchdog


Date:    Wed, 10 Jan 1996 16:47:26 -0600
From:    ***@ZGS.COM
Subject: IRC for Unix boxes

I haven't tried the IRC stuff yet, but for those of us out there
with Unix boxes there is a product at that does include


Date:    Wed, 10 Jan 1996 15:49:39 -0800
From:    ***@SCE.COM
Subject: Elite Regional

If you're in the Los Angeles area and would like to see some good
gymnastics for only $5 come to the Glider Invitational and Elite Regional
on Sunday, January 21, 1996.  If you come to the second session
International Team members Vanessa Atler and Jamie Dantzscher are planning
to compete (but only against each other).

The schedule for January 21, 1996:
        10:00 Competiton for Level 8 (48 girls)
        1:30  Competiton for Levels 8, 9, 10 & Elites (33 girls),
                (Vanessa Atler and Jamie Dantzscher are in session 2)
        4:45  Competiton - Elite Optional exercises & awards (16 girls)

        Charter Oak Gymnastics  (Gliders)
        841 N. Dodsworth Ave
        Covina, CA              (about 15 miles east of Pasadena)

If you come, please stop by the scoring table and say hi, I'll be there all
day with the stressed out look on my face :)   :(    :)

Louise Wheeler (gymnastics mom and booster club VP)


Date:    Wed, 10 Jan 1996 16:38:04 -0800
Subject: Gymn-l Collegiate Update V.1, no. 5

                      GYMN-L's Collegiate Update
                           Volume 1, no. 5
                             Jan. 10 ,1996

(***Editor's Note: Sorry again about the missing/late issue.  Between getting
back to California and promptly getting a cold/flu, it unfortunately wasn't
at the top of my list.)



1. Jenny Hansen Biographical Information
2. NCAA Pre-Season Coaches Poll (Women)
3. Collegiate Rankings by email


    *****Item number 1.5.1*****

From: ***
Subject: Hansen
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 06:06:00 -0700 (MST)

>From a person reading through the Gymn digests on the WWW:

" From: ***
" Jenny Roitman had questions about Jenny Hansen.  I saw & talked
" with her dad, Chuck, last weekend at a local meet.
" Jenny is from Wisconsin, but just over the border from the
" Minneapolis/St. Paul metro area.  She trained for many years at
" Crowley's gymnastics in St. Paul, Minnesota with Lance and Jan
" Crowley.  Her older sister Beth also trained there.  (Beth was a
" collegiate gymnast in Arizona)
" Jenny also trained with Bryan Hough (current Region 4 JO program
" chair) at a gym that is now closed.  Her senior year she trained
" at Turner's.
" Jenny tried Elites a few times, but her compulsories were not as
" strong as her optionals.  I believe she was Level 10 National
" Champion either her junior or senior year of high school.  She
" was on the cover of the Camp Owen brochure with the title, "Level
" 10 National Champion."
" I think that covers the basics!  I've been judging her since she
" was 8 or 9 and she's always been a power-house.  She can do about
" any vault you want, and I remember watching her train
" Yurchenko-style vaults also, if my memory's correct I think
" should could do double-twisting Yurchenkos.  (But don't depend on
" my memory to be correct!)
" --Robin Ruegg


    *****Item number 1.5.2*****

From: ***
Subject: Women's rankings
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 22:48:32 -0700 (MST)

   1996 Pre-Season Rankings (for women)

 1 Alabama
 2 Utah
 3 Michigan
 5 Georgia
 6 LSU
 7 Arizona
 8 Oregon State
 9 Florida
10 Arizona State
11 Nebraska
12 Penn State
13 Stanford
14 BYU
15 Washington
16 W. Virginia
17 Kentucky
18 Massachusetts
19 Auburn
20 Cal
21 NC State
22 Utah State
23 Michigan State
24 New Hampshire
25 Oklahoma

* compiled by Steve Troester


    *****Item number 1.5.3*****

From: *** (
Subject: College rankings by email
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 22:52:12 -0700 (MST)

If you would like to receive the collegiate rankings via email on a
weekly basis, send email to  Specify Men, Women, or
both.  Rankings will be sent for all teams (including Div II), and top
20 individuals on each apparatus and AA.

Men's rankings are distributed on Monday evenings; Women's rankings
are distributed on Tuesday evenings.



  The "GYMN-L Collegiate Update" is a twice-weekly collection of news on the
collegiate gymnastics scene (reduced to once-a-week until January).
  Back issues may be found on the Web at
  To make a submission to the _GYMN-L Collegiate Update_, send email to
*** (NOT directly to the GYMN-L list) with
"Collegiate Update" or "GCU" in the subject header.
  Please send any replies, comments, or suggestions to the same address.


Date:    Wed, 10 Jan 1996 18:44:53 -0600
From:    ***@SASKNET.SK.CA
Subject: 1996 North Shore Invite (W)

     WHAT:  1996 North Shore Invitational

     WHEN:  January 27 - 28, 1996 (Saturday & Sunday)

    WHERE:  Capilano College Sportsplex, North Vancouver, BC (Canada)

      WHO:  Women's artistic, various categories (see schedule)
            Clubs from Western Canada & U.S.

HOST CLUB:  Flicka Gymnastics Club

 SCHEDULE:  Saturday Jan27 - 12 & over Junior Invitational
                           - National Invitational ("seniors")
            Sunday - Jan28 - 11 & under Junior Invitational
                           - National (and 12 & over??) Event Finals


Date:    Wed, 10 Jan 1996 18:55:56 -0600
From:    ***@MINN.NET
Subject: Can't find IRC

        I would really like to do the gymnastics IRC, but I can't find it!!
I search for the IRC channels, but the #gymnastics one isn't listed. I know
I'm doing something wrong, but I don't know what it is. If someone could
e-mail me and tell me how to find it, I would appreciate it. Thanks!


Date:    Wed, 10 Jan 1996 19:59:42 -0500
From:    ***@CLOUD9.NET
Subject: RESULTS: '95 Kawasaki Cup

Kawasaki Cup (formerly Tokyo Cup), December 19, 1995, Kawasaki, Japan

V                               B
1.  Gogean (ROM)       9.850    1.  Milosovici (ROM)   9.850
2.  Milosovici (ROM)   9.775    2.  Gogean (ROM)       9.800 (?)
3.  Bulakhova (UKR)    9.625    3.  Sugawara (JPN)     9.750
4.  Sheremeta (UKR)    9.600    4.  Qiao (CHN)         9.725
5.  Mo (CHN)           9.550    5.  Sheremeta (UKR)    9.675
6.  Qiao (CHN)         9.500    6.  Hashigushi (JPN)   9.625
6.  Hashigushi (JPN)   9.500    7.  Mo (CHN)           9.400
8.  Sugawara (JPN)     9.487    8.  Bulakhova (UKR)    9.300

UB                              FX
1.  Mo (CHN)           9.875    1.  Gogean (ROM)       9.875
2.  Sheremeta (UKR)    9.850    1.  Milosovici (ROM)   9.875
2.  Gogean (ROM)       9.850    3.  Sheremeta (UKR)    9.850
4.  Milosovici (ROM)   9.825    4.  Mo (CHN)           9.750
5.  Bulakhova (UKR)    9.725    5.  Qiao (CHN)         9.725
6.  Qiao (CHN)         9.700    6.  Bulakhova (UKR)    9.700
7.  Sugawara (JPN)     9.650    7.  Hashiguchi (JPN)   9.550
8.  Hashigushi (JPN)   9.525    8.  Sugawara (JPN)     9.500


FX                              V
1. Li Xiaoshuang (CHN)  9.750   1. Shabaev (RUS)       9.625
2. Roethlisberger (USA) 9.575   2. ??
3. Tanaka (JPN)         9.500   3. ??
3. Shabaev (RUS)        9.500   4. Tanaka (JPN)        9.450
5. Macready (USA)       9.400   5. ??
6. You (KOR)            9.350   6. ??
7. Vassilenko (RUS)     9.250   7. ??
8. Hatakeda (JPN)       9.200   8. ??
9. Kang (KOR)           8.750   9. ??

PH                              PB
1. Hatakeda (JPN)       9.800   1. Shabaev (RUS)       9.800
2. Shabaev (RUS)        9.725   2. Li (CHN)            9.700
3. Vassilenko (RUS)     9.675   3. Hatakeda (JPN)      9.600
4. Li (CHN)             9.625   4. Tanaka (JPN)        9.525
5. Tanaka (JPN)         9.600   5. ??
6. Roethlisberger (USA) 9.400   6. ??
7. Kang (KOR)           8.800   7. ??
8. Macready (USA)       8.700   8. ??
9. You (KOR)            8.550   9. ??

R                               HB
1. Tanaka (JPN)         9.700   1. Li (CHN)            9.675
1. Li (CHN)             9.700   2. Roethlisberger(USA) 9.600
3. Roethlisberger (USA) 9.625   2. Macready (USA)      9.600
4. Shabaev (RUS)        9.550   4. Hatakeda (JPN)      9.450
5. Vassilenko (RUS)     9.525   4. Shabaev (RUS)       9.450
6. You (KOR)            9.500   6. Tanaka (JPN)        9.200
7. Kang (KOR)           8.950   7. You (KOR)           8.950
7. Macready (USA)       8.950   8. Vassilenko (RUS)    8.700
9. Hatakeda (JPN)       8.850   9. Kang (KOR)          8.000



Date:    Wed, 10 Jan 1996 20:00:18 -0500
From:    ***@CLOUD9.NET
Subject: '95 JPN Nationals

Here are some very brief AA standings from the '95 Japanese Nationals
(sorry, but I didn't receive any scores).

1.  Miho Hashigushi
2.  Risa Sugawara
3.  Masumi Okawa
4.  Kaori Iwata

There was only a 0.2 difference between 1st and 4th.
He Xuemei (CHN) attends university in Japan and took part in the competition.

1.  Yoshiaki Hatakeda*
2.  Naoya Tsukahara
3.  Masaaki Kobayashi
8.  Tatsuya Yamada
15. Masayuki Matsunaga*
15. Hiromasa Masuda*
17. Daisuke Nishikawa*
20. Hikaru Tanaka*
26. Masayuki Maeda*

*=Sabae team member
A 15-year-old junior high school student, Takehiro Kashima, won PH and
became the youngest national champion ever.  Tsukahara's opening tumbling
pass was a full-twisting double layout.



Date:    Wed, 10 Jan 1996 20:15:13 -0700
From:    ***@RMII.COM
Subject: USOC Sportswoman of the Year

Dominique Moceanu finished 7th in the balloting for USOC Sportswoman
of the year.

Michael Johnson (Track and field) was Sportsman of the Year with 1242
points.  Picabo Street was Sportswoman of the Year with 1450 points.
Moceanu had 404 points.



Date:    Wed, 10 Jan 1996 23:19:03 -0500
From:    ***@MAROON.TC.UMN.EDU
Subject: Introduction

Hi everyone!  I've enjoyed reading all your comments and am glad to find a
number of other gymnastics fans out there!

My name is Robin Ruegg.  I am a women's judge from Minnesota with a Brevet
rating.  I have been involved in gymnastics as a gymnast, coach and judge
since 1967.  (I started judging 19 years ago.  I was a gymnast before then.
In fact, while in college I was a gymnast, coach and judge.)
My favorite gymnast of all times is Nelli Kim.  And guess what?  She now
lives in the Minneapolis/St. Paul area, at least for a year while her
10-year old daughter participates in an exchange program.  I met Nelli and
judged with her a few weeks ago.  As I've told many gymnastics friends,
dreams I've never even known I had have come true for me in this sport!

My favorite event to judge is bars because it is the most challenging to
"keep up" with the gymnast and write down all the short-hand, evaluate it
and come up with a score in 30 seconds.  Just to watch, my favorite event
is Floor Exercise.  It's not quite as fun to judge because of the many
contraversies  (spelling?  Is there a spell check on this editor?) with the
leaps and jumps.  (Especially the "bonja-bonja's" where the gymnast jumps
and turns and jumps and turns and you're not sure what she did!)

My goal is to attend and watch more World Championships!  I have attended
the 1978's in Strasburg, 1979 in Ft. Worth, 1985 in Montreal and 1991 in

I look forward to chatting with you all!  (In Southern talk, that's y'all,
here in the North we say you guys)



Date:    Thu, 11 Jan 1996 03:24:02 -0500
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: UPCOMING RSG EVENTS: USAG Challenge & USA/BLR Exhib.

1996 USAG Challenge

What: a U.S. nat'l team (jr. & sr.) re-ranking meet
Where: the "Elite Sports Complex" in Downers Grove, IL
Dates: 16 & 17 Feb.
Tickets: Adults $5, Children/Students $3 (for more info call: 708-968-2699)

*Tenative* Schedule ...

Friday (16 Feb.) prelims 6:30 pm
Saturday (17 Feb) finals 4 pm


USA/BLR Exhibition

Who: the top U.S. and Belarusian group and individual rhythmic gymnasts
When: 18 Feb. at 1 pm (general public) & 5 pm (limited seating*)
Where: the "Elite Sports Complex" in Downers Grove, IL
Tickets: Adults $8, Students (11-18) $6, & Children (under 10) $4

*advance tickets recomended



End of GYMN-L Digest - 10 Jan 1996 to 11 Jan 1996