GYMN-L Digest - 9 Apr 1996 to 10 Apr 1996

There are 14 messages totalling 270 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Nadia Comaneci on TV (fwd)
  2. kodak ads
  3. GYMN-L Digest - 9 Apr 1996
  4. Stormy Eaton
  5. NY Times article on Nadia and Bart
  6. <No subject given>
  7. Judges' Pay
  8. cancel subscription
  9. British gymnasts
 10. GYMN-L Digest - 8 Apr 1996 to 9 Apr 1996 - Special iss
 11. Pre-school gym and themes
 12. GYMN
 13. Hindorff
 14. New Address


Date:    Tue, 9 Apr 1996 09:19:32 EDT
From:    ***@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU
Subject: Nadia Comaneci on TV (fwd)

Tara said:

>Did anyone else happen to see the interview with Nadia
>Comaneci and Al Roker on CNBC tonight at about 7:30pm? I
>caught the end of it. They were discussing how she defected to
>the US and Nadia and Bart's wedding plans. Does anyone know
>what else they talked about?

Caught part of this interview.  One of the questions that Roker asked
her was regarding the technical difficulty that gymnasts are able
to do today.  She said that it was better training, techniques and
equipment.  She went on to say that she couldn't imagine doing the degree
of difficulty that is being done today and that she was glad that she
was born 30 years ago.



Date:    Tue, 9 Apr 1996 08:24:51 +0200
From:    ***@MERCUR.USAO.EDU
Subject: Re: kodak ads

on BET I saw an aid for kodak, this one showing pictures, not the
athletes after words. The used Dominic Dawes in this ad, but unlike the
one with morchanu (Bad spelling) they put "olympic Hopeful" why couldn't
they mention Dawes' medal in 92? After all, she did get one.


Date:    Tue, 9 Apr 1996 08:58:14 +0000
From:    ***@KWIC.COM
Subject: Re: GYMN-L Digest - 9 Apr 1996

> I was also wondering about the practice of the hosting club being able
> to have one of their coaches judging.  I have attended several level
> 6-10 RSG meets including the State Champs and Regionals.  This odd
> judging arangement has accured at every meet.  I thought this was just
> a problem in RSG but now I assume that this is common.  I
> would like to hear some parents and judges thoughts on this.  Thanks!

 In our area we only have a small number of judges and the cost to
bring in others would be to high to make it worth our while. How we
do it is as long as there is no conflict of interest between the
competitors and the judges (eg. you coach them) then we will allow
you to officiate.

 We treat our judges like professional and we expect them to act like
that. The head judge though is always from outside the area and has
no ties to any of the clubs this is the other safe guard that we have
put in inorder to keep things fair.



Date:    Tue, 9 Apr 1996 10:00:57 -0400
Subject: Re: Stormy Eaton

At 03:34 PM 4/8/96 -0700, you wrote:
>        Stormy Eaton died about a year ago in a plane crash.  His
>girlfriend (whom he was going to marry) survived the crash.  He is
>greatly missed.

I guess it is my fault for only reading selected messages and not all of
them that are posted here.  But, who is Stormy Eaton?  I have no idea and I
apologize for my ignorance.


Date:    Tue, 9 Apr 1996 10:05:11 -0400
Subject: Re: NY Times article on Nadia and Bart

At 05:51 PM 4/8/96 -0400, you wrote:
>Howdy, GYMNers:
>>>Today's (Friday, 4/5/96) NY Times has an article about Bart Conner and Nadia
>Comaneci and their upcoming wedding(three weeks away, with highlights the next
>day on ABC's Wide World of Sports).  The article discusses how after meeting at
>the American Cup in 1976, they didn't really cross paths again until after
>defected. Then Bart talked himself onto the "Pat Sajak" show when Nadia was to
>be interviewed, sensed she was afraid of Panait (the man who'd help her
>and arranged for her to leave Panait and move to Canada. After a year as "phone
>pals," they began making appearances together, and the friendship eventually
>grew into a romance.
>I thought they got married [I want to say, "in Romania"] around last March or
>April or May?  Around that time last year I remember a big TV special about
>Nadia's first homecoming to Romania since her defection, and that she brought
>Bart there as well?
>Am I losing it?
I saw that episode about Nadia's return to Romania.  It was a special
edition of ABC's Wide World of Sports.  Nadia and Bart were not married
then.  No, you are not losing it!


Date:    Tue, 9 Apr 1996 10:17:27 -0400
Subject: <No subject given>

My daughter's gym has done the Bingo thing as well.  Here is Virginia, it is
also limited to Non-profit groups.  Recent laws have changed the way we're
taxed and it's not for the better.  Bingo has worked well for us and
provided us with a good source of money.  We have two sessions per week and
working Bingo is manadatory.  For those parents who insist on NOT
participating in the Bingo Fundraiser, they are assessed a surcharge
(referred to as an Assessment Fee).  We've also done the usual--candy, gift
wrap.  Bingo seems to be the best and most reliable.  Getting the parents to
not complain about working is another matter.  However, when parents realize
the money they save by having bingo pay many meet, travel, and coaching
expenses, they see its value.  This year we are trying a cookbook
fundraiser.  This is not far enough along to judge its success.

Does anyone out there have any fundraising ventures to share?


Date:    Tue, 9 Apr 1996 10:51:55 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Judges' Pay

>Women's judges here in the U.S. are paid based on rating for USGF
>competitions.  The colleges each have their own systems, and range from
>about $50 to $150 a meet.  The hourly payment for USGF judges is as follows:

>Level 5:      $10          Level 9:   $18
>Level 6-7:    $12          Level 10:  $21
>Level 8:      $15          Elite:     $23
>Level 6-7-8:  $16          Brevet:    $25

>BTW, what do the men's officials make?

I can only speak as a Florida judge. We are governed by the SGJA
(southeastern gymnastics judges association), but every regional mens'
judging association has their own rate schedule. Our is as follows:
We are paid per session (a session is defined as 48 routines judged) by our
level of certification.
Apprentice:$25/session and 50 cents/routine over 48
JO:$30/session and 75 cents/ routine over 48
National:$35/session and $1/routine over 48
FIG brevet:$40/session and $1.25/routine over 48

We are also re-imbursed for mileage, tolls, and meals.



Date:    Tue, 9 Apr 1996 08:47:09 -0700
From:    ***@PRIMENET.COM
Subject: cancel subscription

Please cancel our subscription to the gymnastics.



Date:    Mon, 8 Apr 1996 09:31:02 PDT
From:    ***@AMDAHL.CO.ZA
Subject: British gymnasts

Where can I write to British gymnasts?


Date:    Tue, 9 Apr 1996 13:46:08 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: GYMN-L Digest - 8 Apr 1996 to 9 Apr 1996 - Special iss

This message can be answered by anyone. It is on Olympic Tickets. Can you
still get good seats for gymnastics at the Olympics? My Aunt lives in Atlanta
and we may go down there to see some of the games.


Date:    Tue, 9 Apr 1996 14:41:08 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Pre-school gym and themes

Does anyone have any ideas on integrating themes into the pre-school program
at our gym.  If response is long please EM me personally so not to clutter
the system.  Thank you.




Date:    Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:54:00 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: GYMN

Will I get the magazine monthly in my e-mail, or do I have to have it sent to
my house?  I don't understand


Date:    Tue, 9 Apr 1996 20:10:26 CDT
Subject: Hindorff

I know this is kind of an old thread, but due to Easter and a VERY hectic last
couple of days, I am just now checking my e-mail.  Anyway.

Last season, Nicole Garrett of University of Arizona threw a HUGE Hindorff
(free-hip circle immediate Tkatchev).  Garrett was a Senior last year at AZ
and qualified to NCAAs.

This season, I saw a girl from Iowa State (one of the Mazza triplets?) perform
a very nice Hindorff, as well.  Interestingly, she did hers facing away from
the low bar, while Garrett did hers facing the low bar (like Dawes).


Date:    Tue, 9 Apr 1996 21:26:38 -0500
Subject: New Address

        A quick note to everyone; my new email address is:



End of GYMN-L Digest - 9 Apr 1996 to 10 Apr 1996