GYMN-L Digest - 6 May 1996 - Special issue

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Topics in this special issue:

  1. FAQ Correction and re-intro
  2. Olympic Team....
  3. GYMN-L Digest - 4 May 1996 to 5 May 1996
  4. 1996 US Olympic Team
  6. Olympic Individual Questions
  7. MAG:USA:Olympic Trials TCKTS avail?
  8. fcc warning
  9. Women's gymnastics--questions on rules, NCAA's
 10. Dawes
 11. New USA Gymnastics Videos
 12. level 10 nationals
 13. RESULTS: RSG Meet in Greece
 14. RESULTS: RSG Calais Intl. Juniors
 15. Provincial Championship Highlights (long)
 16. Level 10 National Results


Date:    Mon, 6 May 1996 08:54:24 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: FAQ Correction and re-intro

>Optional Exercises (Men):  Men's routines start from a value
>of 9.0.  Since a D-element is required, performing one will
>automatically raise the start value to 9.1.  If a D-element
>is not performed, there is a 0.1 deduction (for a start
>value of 8.9).  The extra 1.0 point can be earned by
>performing E-rated elements and special connections.

This is not precisely true. If there is no D-element performed and there is
no extra       C-element that can partially compensate for it, the starting
value is an 8.4. Also the 1.0 bouns point can be earned by D (0.1 each) or E
(0.2 each) or direct connections of C+D, D+D, or C+E (0.1) or E+E or D+E

>Pommels:      scissors
>High Bar:     dorsal grip
>Rings:        swing to handstand
>              press to handstand
>Floor (M):    one-leg or one-arm balance
>             minimum of 2 gymnastic-acrobatic series

There is a bit missing here. I'll fill in the blanks.
FX-     C-value back tumbling series
          B-value front tumbling series
          a balance on one arme or leg

PH-     B-value one pommel element with at least 3 hand placements
           B-value part on each end of the horse
           2 scissors

SR-     C-value swing handstand
           B-value strength handstand
           B-value static strength move

PB-     B-value move through support
           B-value move through lower hang
           B-value release move

HB-     B-value dorsal grip move
           B-value inbar element
           B-value release move showing flight.

To re-introduce myself. My name is Dean. I am 31 years old. I was a
gymnast in Jr. high and High school and started working as a coach to support
my habit.<<GRIN>>
I have been coaching for 17 years, judging for twelve, and have been a mens
FIG brevet judge for four years. I am currently employed at Rainbow
Gymnastics in Ocala, FL. where I coach literally everything (preschool, rec,
boys, girls, cheerleaders, etc.).



Date:    Mon, 6 May 1996 05:53:39 -0700
From:    ***@IX.NETCOM.COM
Subject: Olympic Team....

                            I thought that there could be seven on a
team w/o using a alternate. Anyone know? Well, here is my list. I'm
just gonna use seven people:

                            Shannon Miller, Dom Moceanu, Dom Dawes,
Amanda Borden, Jacyie Phelps, Kerri Strug, Jennie Tompson

                            (In no particular order....)


Date:    Mon, 6 May 1996 08:57:33 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: GYMN-L Digest - 4 May 1996 to 5 May 1996

Re: ncaa coverage

I watched yesterday with a full-hour smile!  The crowd was absolutely fab,
along with the exuberance of the gymnasts!  I much prefered this arena for
the competition of gymnastics to the sometimes solemn atmosphere found at
USAG & elite competitions.   The NCAA, the participating schools, and
especially the fans and athletes should be commended for portraying
gymnastics at the real sport it is--not just another display or performance
to simply watch and applaud.

By the way, where was the ACC?


Date:    Mon, 6 May 1996 10:26:23 -0400
From:    ***@GWIS2.CIRC.GWU.EDU
Subject: Re: 1996 US Olympic Team

My list would be the same for the most part:  Dominique Dawes, Shannon
Miller, Dominique Moceanu, Kerri Strug, Jaycie Phelps, Amanda Bordon,
Kristy Powell.  I think this would probably be the strongest one we could
field but I am also expecting some surprises.  All of these gymnasts
(except maybe Phelps??) have been plagued by injuries in the last year or
two.  Other contenders for the team:  Jennie Thompson, Amy Chow, Mary
Beth Arnold, Theresa Kulikowski, Mohini Bhardwaj(sp?),. . . Who am I
While I'm here I might as well do the re-intro.  My name is Melissa
and I'm finishing up my freshman year at George Washington U. in
Washington, DC.  I am originally from the Philadelphia area where I did
competitive gymnastics for about 7 years.  I was a Level 7 when I quit
and I was a cheerleader for a couple of years in high school.  I'm hoping
to try out at GW in the fall.  Anyway, back to gymnastics, I have also
coached and done summer camps but more than anything else I a just a huge
fan and I follow the sport as closely as possible.  I will be in Atlanta
this summer--I have tickets for every team session plus the all-around
finals, men and women!!:)  My all-time favorite gymnast is Kim Zmeskal
because she knows what it means to be a true "winner".  I love this list
and being able to discuss my favorite sport with people who are as
passionate about it as I am!

On Sun, 5 May 1996, Letty wrote:

> I was wondering who everyone thought the Olympic Team would be consisted of.
> (Women's) This is who I think (in no order):
> Shannon Miller, Dominique Dawes, Dominique Moceanu, Amanda Borden, Jaycie
> Phelps, and Kerri Strug with alternate Jennie Thompson
> E-Mail me with your thoughts and your lists. Please noone take offense or
> become angry about my list. It's just an opinion. Thanks!!
> Angeletta


Date:    Mon, 6 May 1996 09:59:19 -0600

Are there any female coachs of male elite gymnasts? We see male and female
WAG coaches, but I was wondering if there are any that specialize in MAG


Dina, Dina, Dina


Date:    Mon, 6 May 1996 11:03:08 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Olympic Individual Questions


I was wondering about the rule about indaviduals being sent to the Olympics
from countries that didn't qualify in the top 12 in Sabae. How many countries
send ind.? How many ind. get to go from those countries? Thanks for your
time. Bye!



Date:    Mon, 6 May 1996 13:25:35 -0400
Subject: MAG:USA:Olympic Trials TCKTS avail?


I was just asked by 3 gymnasts here in Phila. if I know of anyone who has 3
tickets they are not using for Saturday night optionals for the men's
trials.   They will be training/working during the week and can't make the
compulsories, but do want to go up for the optionals.  So, if anyone has
tickets that they want to sell please contact me



Date:    Mon, 6 May 1996 10:58:30 -0700
From:    ***@NETCOM.COM
Subject: fcc warning

The FCC NEVER issues computer virus warnings.

CERT at Lawrence Livermore Natnl Labs  or the internic
isssues warnings.

If a virus warning claims to be from FCC then you KNOW its a hoax.

One last thing, any virus that is not machine & operating system specific
is also a hoax.  You cant make a virus that will nail all computers, it wont
work.  A virus wont nail Sun3 & mac & pc &ps2 & sunsparc & HP.......
You just cant nail that many machines with one piece of code.

So when you see these warnings, remember what I said here,
and laugh at the fakes and preserver the bandwidth of this list, OK ?

(Texx now prepares to get nailed by Rachele & George for posting techie crud
on the gymn list)


Date:    Mon, 6 May 1996 12:58:35 CST
From:    ***@MAROON.TC.UMN.EDU
Subject: Women's gymnastics--questions on rules, NCAA's

1)  Question was about landings with the feet apart and is there a deduction
can the judges detect this when they sit on the side of the horse?
The general deduction for leg separations is up to .15 for optional
competitions.  A .15 deduction is the MAXIMUM, so would be a severe
separation of the legs.  Slight separation would be .05.  Yes, it would be
hard for the judges to see the legs apart, and if they couldn't see it,
they wouldn't deduct it.

2)  Question 2 was whether an Illusion full turn fulfilled the full turn
requirement on beam.  Yes, and it is an "E" skill.  (This was a USGF
interpretation and would be used at the NCAA level, I don't know what they
do internationally.  Avril??)



Date:    Mon, 6 May 1996 15:47:00 -0500
From:    ***@CIC.NCHE.EDU
Subject: Dawes

Anyone see the new Kodak commercial featuring Dominique Dawes?


Date:    Mon, 6 May 1996 16:03:00 MDT
From:    ***@RMII.COM
Subject: New USA Gymnastics Videos

I received this from USA Gymnastics:


1996 World Championships - Women's Training (Tapes 1 & 2)
San Juan, PUR. Footage of training including the teams from: ROM, RUS, CHN,
ESP, HUN, UKR, BLR & BRA.       4:00:00

"A Day In The Gym" Video Series Series Description:
"A Day In The Gym" is for use as an educational tool for USAG professional
members. Each video in the series shows a candid, unrehearsed view of a
typical workout featuring training footage from clubs across the nation.
Each video focuses on a different level of training.

"A Day In The Gym" Level 8 - Cincinnati Gymnastics Academy (Tapes 1 & 2)        Be
a "fly on the wall" at Cincinnati Gymnastics Academy! This second video of
the series is from Cincinnati Gymnastics Academy showing their Level 8
Workout. 2 Tape set.
"A Day In The Gym" Level 6 - Arizona Sunrays Gymnastics
This video shows the Level 6 Workout from Arizona Sunrays Gymnastics.   2:00:00

1996 Rhythmic J.O. Championships - Level 8(Tapes 1, 2 & 3)
Bowie, MD. Features every competitor.   5:00:00

1995 IBM Atlanta Invitational - Men's Competition
Filmed in Atlanta, Georgia this meet took place in the Georgia Dome, site of
the Gymnastics Events in the 1996 Olympic Games. Participants included:
Mihai Bagiu, Jiar Lynch, Kip Simons & Kip Wilson from USA, Andrei Kan &
Vitaly Rudnitski (BLR), Alexei Bondarenko & Eugeni Podgorni (RUS), Huang
Huadong (CHN), Rustam Charipov & Alexandre Svetlichnyi (UKR) as well as
cometitiors from Korea, Japan, Germany and Bulgaria.

1995 IBM Atlanta Invitational- Women's Competition
Filmed in Atlanta, Georgia this meet took place in the Georgia Dome, site of
the Gymnastics Events in the 1996 Olympic Games. Participants included:
Katie Teft & Mohini Bhardwaj from the USA, Roza Galieva & Elena Grosheva
(RUS), Svetlana Boginskaia & Elena Piskun (BLR), Alexandra Marinescu &
Mirela Tugurlan (ROM), Ji Liya & Liu Xuan (CHN) as well as cometitiors from
Spain, Japan, and Ukraine.

1996 McDonald's American Cup - Women's Competition (Tapes 1 & 2)
Fort Worth, TX. ... 2 Tape set.Preliminary and Finals competitions. Features
All competitors. Including: Kerri Stug, Kristy Powell & Andree Pickens
(USA), Svetlana Boginskaia (BLR), Oksana Chusovitina (UZB), San Lan (CHN),
Svetlana Zelepukina (UKR), Yvonne Tousek (CAN), Alexandra Dobrescu (ROM),
Joanna Juarez (ESP), Julia Korostilova (RUS)...  2:00:00and0:40:00

1996 McDonald's 3 on 3 International Championships (Tapes 1 & 2)
Atlanta, GA. ... 2 Tape setEvery round of competition. Features All
competitors. Including: Kerri Stug, John Roethlisberger, Jair Lynch, Andree
Pickens, Lauri Illy & Jessica Davis (USA), Svetlana Boginskaia, Andrei Kan &
Eugenia Pavlina (BLR), Oksana Chusovitina (UZB), San Lan (CHN), Svetlana
Zelepukina & Valery Goncharov (UKR), Yvonne Tousek, Kris Burley & Camille
Martins (CAN), Alexandra Dobrescu & Adrian Ianculescu (ROM), Joanna Juarez
(ESP), Julia Korostilova & Oleg Kuzmin (RUS)...          2:00:00and 2:00:00

1996 Rhythmic Challenge - Senior Competition (Tapes 1 & 2)
Downers Grove, IL. ... 2 Tape set.Day One and Day Two competitions. Features
All competitors: Jessica Davis, Lauri Illy, Natalie Lacuesta, Liriel Higa,
Tina Tharp, Kristin Lee, Kelsi Kemper, Melissa McElroy & Alicia Albe.
2:00:00 and 0:40:00

1996 Rhythmic Challenge - Junior Competition
Downers Grove, IL.Day One and Day Two competitions. Features All
competitors: Kassy Scharringhausen, Kate Jeffress, Tara McCargo, Johanna
Shoemaker, Ellie Takahashi, Diana Quirin, Amy Ng, Emily Varela.          2:00:00

1996 USA & Belarus Rhythmic Exhibition  Downers Grove, IL.Features All
Athletes: USA: Jessica Davis, Lauri Illy, Natalie Lacuesta, Liriel Higa,
Kassy Scharringhausen, Kate Jeffress, Tara McCargo, USA Group Team and the
Elite Sports Complex Rhythmic Children Athletes.BLR: World Championships
medalist, Larissa Lukyanenko, Tatiana Ogryzko, Evguenia Pavlina and the BLR
Group Team. BONUS!Training Footage of Belarus Gymnasts and USA Group Team.

1995 Junior Olympic RSG Group  Championships
San Francisco, CA 10/14-15/95    2:00

1995 Rhythmic Challenge Two day AA competition   2:00

1995 US National GymFest
Carmel, INFootage of all individual group performances, plus: the USA
Rhythmic Group National Team, footage of practices, and the rehearsal for
the Finale. Includes two music videos.  1:23

We also have a "Coming Soon": 1996 World Championships
Competition Videos. Look for them in late May 1996.

Thanks, Dawn Alice Brenner

# # #


Date:    Mon, 6 May 1996 20:27:08 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: level 10 nationals

Does anyone have the results for level 10 nationals?
I'm interested in the 17+ age group from both prelims and finals.  Please
send any info. you may have.  Thanks!!


Date:    Mon, 6 May 1996 21:08:52 -0400
From:    ***@CLOUD9.NET
Subject: RESULTS: RSG Meet in Greece

Sorry, but I don't know the name of this competition which was held at the
end of March in Kalamata, Greece:

AA                                 RP     BL      CB      RB     AA
1.  Elena Vitrichenko (UKR)      9.850   9.975  10.000  9.800  39.625
2.  Amina Zaripova (RUS)         9.925   9.800   9.975  9.875  39.575
3.  Diana Popova (BUL)           9.875   9.825   9.900  9.950  39.550
4.  Yana Batyrchina (RUS)        9.975   9.900   9.950  9.600  39.425
5.  Evgenia Pavlina (BLR)        9.825   9.850   9.775  9.725  39.175
6.  Almudena Cid Tostado (ESP)   9.650   9.600   9.600  9.550  38.400
7.  Maria Gateva (BUL)           9.650   9.725   9.550  9.400  38.325
8.  Evangelia Sotiriou (GRE)     9.350   9.500   9.600  9.425  37.875
8.  Maria Pagalou (GRE)          9.675   9.550   9.450  9.200  37.875
10. Victoria Frater (HUN)        9.500   9.250   9.550  9.300  37.600
11. Camille Martens (CAN)        9.350   9.425   9.550  9.225  37.550
12. Ekaterina Abramia (GEO)      9.400   9.250   9.450  9.225  37.325
13. Alba Caride Costa (ESP)      9.300   9.425   9.200  9.325  37.250
13. Anna Kwitniewska (POL)       9.325   9.325   9.325  9.175  37.250
15. Krystina Leskiewicz (POL)    9.325   9.350   9.300  9.200  37.175
16. Jessica Davia (USA)          9.350   9.150   9.250  9.225  36.975


RP:  1. Batyrchina, Vitrichenko 9.95
BL:  1. Vitrichenko 10.00
CB:  1. Vitrichenko 10.00
RB:  1. Vitrichenko, Zaripova, Popova 10.00

Debbie :-)


Date:    Mon, 6 May 1996 21:09:52 -0400
From:    ***@CLOUD9.NET
Subject: RESULTS: RSG Calais Intl. Juniors

Junior results from a meet in Calais (mid-March):

AA                            RP     BL     CB     RB     AA
1.  Yulia Rasskina (BLR)     9.35   9.60   9.40   9.45   37.80
2.  Alina Kabaeva (RUS)      9.40   9.55   9.15   9.50   37.60
3.  Magalie Poisson (FRA)    9.00   9.05   8.90   9.00   35.95
4.  Paula Orive (ESP)        8.95   9.30   8.95   8.65   35.85
5.  Monique Strobl (GER)     8.95   9.05   8.75   8.95   35.65
6.  Francesca Bandu (ITA)    8.90   9.10   8.85   8.55   35.40
7.  Stephanie Delayat (FRA)  8.55   8.75   9.00   8.90   35.20
8.  Megumi Okamoto (JPN)     8.70   8.60   8.75   8.85   34.85
8.  Emeline Racape (FRA)     8.70   8.75   8.65   8.75   34.85

Kabaeva won 3 event finals (RP, BL and CB), with Rasskina taking RB.

Debbie :-)


Date:    Mon, 6 May 1996 22:00:34 -0400
From:    ***@YORKU.CA
Subject: Provincial Championship Highlights (long)

        This weekend in Mississauga, the women's artistic provincial
championships took place.  I don't have full results, but I will post
some competition highlights as I remember them.
        In the senior high performance category, there were several
Olympic hopefulls in the field hoping to use this meet as a tune-up for
the Olympic trials.  This created some confusion in the scoring as four
gymnasts performed compulsories on the first day, but they were judged
according to optional rules (comp 1b I believe), so the SV for UB was
only 9.4 (which I assume means they didn't get full credit for certain
skills, ie the straddle back HS from a slip grip, which would be a D if
done from a handstand on the highbar, no?), FX started from 8.1 and BB
from 7.something.  Overall, Lena Degteva of Mississauga probably had the
best looking compulsories.  Yvonne Tousek looked a bit tired and wasn't
too sharp (apparently she trained four hours at her gym the same day of
the competition!).  Theresa Wolf was her usually consistent self, while
her clubmate Shanyn MacEachern appeared quite shaky here, especially on
BB where her lack of back flexibility appeared quite evident.  Guest
competitor Marleen Lavoie from Ortona Gymnastics in Edmonton(!), here to
get another high level competition before the trials, competed the
compulsory bars apparently better than everyone else, although the score
didn't match.  Marleen competed optionals elsewhere, and her 9.45 on BB
was rediculously low, considering she nailed everything cold: front-on
mount; swtich-leap split leap 1/4; ff-layout-ff; tick-tock Onodi(!);
switch-leap Korbut; Yang Bo jump (much better than it had been at the
Bluewater meet), and a double tuck.  Very elegant, as Marleen always is.
Of course I may be biased since Marleen is my favourite gymnast, but even
the non-partisan gym fans I was sitting with agreed with me on this one.
On FX, Marleen debuted a wonderful 2.5 twist punch front *pike*, and her
triple twist was landed well also.  On V, she performed a powerful
Hristakieva, which is at least as good as any other vault in Canada.
        Natalie Barrington of Mississauga easily won the meet, competing
optionals on both days.  She tumbled a nice arabian double front on FX
(but her other passes of front full PF and front layout PF could use some
upgrading), and did a nice UB combo of higgins roll to two inverts, hop
to overgrip Pak salto, a high Tkatchev and a full-in.  SHe did a Milo
mount on BB, as well as a punch front, and ffs to double tuck.  She is
quickly rising back up to the form that made her one of Canada's top
juniors.  Unfortunately injuries have held her back recently, so it was
nice to see her do so well here.
        Stephanie Cappuccitti of Gemini, coached by 1980 Olympic champ
Elena Davydova, was second and she showed her high layout Jaeger on bars
(it's called the Cappuccitti in the code), and an upgraded BB routine of
front on; punch front; ff-layout-ff, straddle jump 1/2 and double twist.
She had problems landing her tumbling on FX, and her powerful Yurchenko
full from warm-ups was no where to be seen in the actual meet.
        Lisa Campognolo of Mississauga had a consistent meet for the most
part, and was good on BB with a front on, punch front, two Omeliantchiks,
and a 1.5 twist dismount.  On FX, she did three front tumbling passes
(front through to front full, front full punch pike, rudi), although each
pass showed solid front handspring flyspring technique, which IMHO is the
only thing that makes front tumbling somewhat bearable.  She used Sarah
Mercer's music from 1990 as well, which is a neat piece.
        Theresa Wolf of Mississauga fell on her ff-layout-ff on BB, but
showed nice amplitude on UB with a high Tkatchev, Jaeger, and double
layout dismount.  She vaulted a Hristakieva, and tumbled a front full
punch layout barani that rivaled Chusovitina IMO.  Her first pass was
intended to be a layout pike double, but I don't think it was credited as
her SV was only 9.9.
        Shanyn MacEachern of Mississauga missed her Gienger on UB (but
showed a great double layout off), and touched down her BB double tuck
off, a routine in which her poor leg form on her acro elements was very
distracting.  She showed a very powerful and well danced floor set (nice
piked full-in: why can't more Canadian girls learn such a move!)  Shannyn
is a very highly skilled gymnast; she just appeared a bit shaky here.
        Lena Degteva appeared to have a wrist problem (it was wrapped
heavily), but that didn't stop her from doing a great UB routine, with a
piked Jaeger, Tkatchev and a great barani out dismount (very late twist,
which was a neat surprise after she dind't do the barani out in
warm-ups!)  On BB she did a gainer Omeliantchik to split handstand (a
nice variation), but on V she only did a layout Yurchenko (possibly a
Hristakieva on her second, I didn't see it).  ON floor, she watered down
a lot, doing just a high layout for her first pass (it was definitley
intentional, as her run was very slow), and she also did three front
passes; front full PF, front full, front layout PF.  Hopefully she will
be in better form for the trials
        Tousek didn't compete on the second day :-(, a shame since I
really wanted to see that floor routine again.  You all know the one,
right?  Oh, I forgot, NBC missed it :-)........
        It appears that it will be a dogfight at the Olympic trials later
this month, with only three spots available.  I can't imagine that any
more than 6 or 7 girls will actually attempt to qualify.  Likely
competitors I would say are Jennifer Exaltacion (didn't compete here),
Tousek, Degteva, MacEachern, Marilou Cousineau of Gymnix in Montreal,
Lavoie, Wolf, and possibly Stepahnie Hyett and Cappuccitti.  Sault Saint
Marie should be an exciting and tense meet.....


Date:    Mon, 6 May 1996 22:33:04 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Level 10 National Results

Just Returned from Atlanta. My kids dis well but no medals. Maybe next time.
17+ Teams
1. Region VIII A 189.125
2.             I A     187.875
3.            III A     187.725
4.            VII A    187.1
5.            IV  A    186.925
6.            V  A     186.825
7.            I B        186.3
8.            V B        185.85
9.            VI A       184.375
10.           VII B      183.575
11.           VIII  B   183.1
12.           II  A       182.775
13            III B        182.225
14.           II B         179.475
15            IV  B       179.025
16            VI B         177.625

For who ever asked, Chrissy Vanfleet placed 4th AA (38.025)

 Region 5 A 189.275
            1 A 188.125
            8A   187.9
            7 A   186.925
            3 A   186.25
            4A     185.975
            8B     184.675
            6A      184.325
            5B      183.675
            1B      183.45
             3B     183.275
            4B       183.15
            7B       182.875
            2A        180.65
            6B        179.525
            2B         177.125

Region   3A         188425
             7a           187.95
             8A           187.75
             5B            187.3
             4A           186.875
             5A           186.85
             7B            186.075
             3B            184.7  (.3 was deducted for competing out of
             6A             184.325
             1B             184.2
             8B              184.0
             1A               183.75
             2A              183.525
             4B               180.550
             6B               179.050
             2B               170.975

If I feel motivated I will run down top ten AA. none of my kids made it to
finals so we flew home before finals.



End of GYMN-L Digest - 6 May 1996 - Special issue