GYMN-L Digest - 3 Nov 1995 to 4 Nov 1995

There are 13 messages totalling 341 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. TV alert - CBC rebroadcast
  2. Mukhina article (repost)
  3. South Africa-International Challenge
  4. Olympic Tickets/Commonwealth Games
  5. November IG
  6. Full-twisting Shushonova
  7. S. Miller Book
  8. IBM Atlanta Gymnastics Invite
  9. Gymn book (Don't worry, NOT *the book*)
 10. Trivia Answers #33:  1988 Olympics
 11. Trivia Winners (#33)
 12. Atlanta Information
 13. USA athletes at Pre-Olympics


Date:    Fri, 3 Nov 1995 22:30:50 -0600
Subject: TV alert - CBC rebroadcast

My local TV listings say that CBC will be rebroadcasting their
Sabae Worlds coverage latenight on Sunday Nov.5th at 12:30am
(not sure if it's the Team/AA or EF show) which is technically
Monday morning, I suppose...   I would assume it'll be shown
at the same time across the country.

The listing doesn't say that it's a repeat, but it will most
likely be a rebroadcast of what they aired two weeks ago.
But you just never know what CBC has in store!  Might be
worth checking out...



Date:    Sat, 4 Nov 1995 08:13:18 PST
From:    ***@LSS.CO.ZA
Subject: Re: Mukhina article (repost)

About Julissa Gomez. Sorry I seem to have posted incorrect information about
her injury causing her death. That is what I read, and so, what I believed.


Date:    Sat, 4 Nov 1995 08:13:59 PST
From:    ***@LSS.CO.ZA
Subject: South Africa-International Challenge

At the recent International Gymnastics Challenge in South Africa one of our
British list members, Andrea Leman, competed. A disapointing beam dropped
her down a bit, but she ended with a great floor! Well done Andrea.
The second league in Pretoria was won by Anamaria Bican, 2nd-Raegen Tomacek
and 3rd Oksana Chusovitina (she fell twice on beam-8.50) Chusovitina is so
tiny! I would say, about 1,40m, and she is 20! I really admire her.
I spoke to Kelli Hill and she said Dominique Dawes is training well and her
injuries are better.


Date:    Sat, 4 Nov 1995 05:14:09 -0500
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Olympic Tickets/Commonwealth Games

It was announced this week that Manchester, England will be the site of the
2002 Commonwealth Games. The gymnastics portion of the meet will be held at
the Nynex arena, which holds 18,500 people. These Games will be the largest
sporting event held in Great Britain since they hosted the summer Olympics in
1948. (source PA Newswire)


According to the PR Newswire and ACOG there are still tickets available to
the gymnastics podium training sessions.

For more information (and updates on ticket avilablity) check out their web
site at <> or you can call at (404) 744-1996.
Tickets will be sold *only* via mail through December then, starting in
February, by phone. Remaining tickets will go on sale at box offices in the
Atlanta area starting in June.

 - Susan


Date:    Sat, 4 Nov 1995 08:34:13 -0500
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: November IG

I have to agree. In the past few years I have seen the magazine really take a
turn down hill. It seems that since Paul Ziert took over that IG has lost
some of the quality content in favor of glossy pics and weak articles. It is
perhaps just a sign of the times that as our sport grows there is now a need
for another Mag.


Date:    Sat, 4 Nov 1995 12:12:16 EST
From:    ***@PRODIGY.COM
Subject: Re: Full-twisting Shushonova

Dave writes:
> Does anyone know what a full-twisting Shushonova on floor is worth
>men's gymnastics?  I'm going to be doing it in my floor routine and
>know its value.  It's not in the code of points yet.

I would assume it will be valued the same as the jump forward 1/1
twist to front support,
currently in the Code of Points and valued as a B skill.



Date:    Sat, 4 Nov 1995 18:41:19 GMT
From:    ***@IX.NETCOM.COM
Subject: S. Miller Book

Has anyone read the book on Shannon Miller advertised in IG?  Is it
worth buying or is it redundant information?  I read the Zmeskal book,
and a lot of it was quotes I had already heard Bela, Kim, or her parents
make on TV.


Date:    Sat, 4 Nov 1995 14:15:18 -0500
Subject: IBM Atlanta Gymnastics Invite

Before I get to Atlanta info -- I saw a commercial for a "jennie the gymnast
doll"  She works uneven bars (kinda) and has an instruction book with her. I
believe this is a Matel toy -- noted that this was a definitely a doll that
looked like a healthy (not skinny) little girl.
This is the latest information I have gotten on the Pre-Olymic meet--

Competition format:     Individual event and AA competition
Events:                 Day 1: Men- FX, PH, R
                               Women - V & UB
                        Day 2: Men -V, PB, HB
                               Women - BB & FX
Training dates:         Nov. 14-15
Estimated numbers:
        Spectators      10,000 each session
        Athletes:       18 men, 18 women
        countries:      Men: China, Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Germany,
Japan,                           Korea, Bulgaria, USA
                        1st alternate: Romania, 2nd alt: Italy, 3rd alt. France
                        Women:  Romania, USA, Russia, China, Ukraine, Belarus,
                        France, Spain, Japan
                        1st alt. Canada, 2nd alt. ungary, 3rd alt. Great Britain
 coaches/team officials 18
        comp. officials 10 men, 12 women
     Fed.officials/VIPS 2 (FIG pres.& Gen'l Sect) 2 tech. delegates
        Media           70 - 100

If I get anything else before I go down I'll post it.


Date:    Sat, 4 Nov 1995 15:07:02 -0500
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Gymn book (Don't worry, NOT *the book*)

I just got this great gymnastics book called "Going For It!". ($16.95 US)
 It's by Mark Gibson, and the whole thing is filled with quotes, suggestions
and tips(not on your gymnastics, but on your attitude towards it.)  I don't
know exactly where you can get it (I got mine at my gym) but I have an
address you can write to for it. If anyone wants the address, you can e-mail
me privately at DM73C@AOL.COM
                                                      Dawn :)


Date:    Sat, 4 Nov 1995 17:26:19 -0500
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Trivia Answers #33:  1988 Olympics

Here are the answers to Trivia Quiz #33.  See my separate message for info on
prize winners!

Thanks for questions to:

#1, 2-Amy
#9, 10-Debbie


1.  This person is one of the few females to ever perform a double twisting
double back on FX.  However, the '88 Olympics marked the only time she ever
attempted the skill in competition.

Daniela Silivas (ROM)

2)  Who was the only female gymnast to perform a double twisting Yurchenko
during the *all-around* competition at the '88 Olympics?

Natalia Laschenova  (USSR)

3.  Which gymnast was forced to drop out of the all-around after sustaining a
fractured lower fibula on floor?

Lori Strong, Canada

4.   The '88 Olympics marked a significant change in the rules for
   women's floor exercise.  What was it?

Live piano players would no longer be utilized for compulsories.

5.  What individual athlete refused to perform optionals during her
session because of religious concerns, only to see her hopes fulfilled when
she was allowed to perform optionals with another team instead? (1/2 point)
Which team? (1/2 point)

Revital Sharon, Hungary

6.  If the new life rule had been in effect during 1988, which American would
have won a medal in event finals and what apparatus/color would the medal
have been?

Brandy Johnson, Vault Silver

7.  One team lost the bronze medal as a result of a .5 deduction for having a
"coach" on the podium while an athlete was competing.
(You must answer all of the following correctly to get credit)
a.  Which country lost the medal?
b.  Which country gained the medal?
c.  Who was the "coach" on the podium ?
d.  Who was the athlete competing and what event was she competing on ?

a.  USA  b. GDR  c. Rhonda Faehn, team alternate
d.  Kelly Garrison-Steves, compulsory UB

8. This gymnast was named captain of his country's Olympic gym team and was
then unable to even go to Seoul at all because of injury.

Yury Korolyov, USSR

9.  How many first place ties were there during men's event finals in Seoul?
 Name them.

     Three (PH, R, HB).

     PH:  Lubomir Gueraskov (BUL), Zsolt Borkai (HUN), Dmitri Bilozerchev
(URS): 19.950
     R:  Holger Behrendt (GDR) and Dmitri Bilozerchev (URS):  19.925
     HB:  Vladimir Artemov (URS) and Valery Lyukin (URS):  19.900

10. How many bronze medals did Romanians win?

     Three.  Marius Gherman (tied for 3rd in HB); Daniela Silivas (3rd V);
and Gabriela Potorac (tied for 3rd in B).


Date:    Sat, 4 Nov 1995 17:26:27 -0500
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Trivia Winners (#33)

Da ta ta da . . . . [drum roll}

The winners of our first trivia for prizes, Trivia Quiz #33, 1988 Olympics

First Prize - Videotape - Highlights of the 1988 Summer
Olympics (NBC) won by:

Chris aka ***@YorkU.CA (9.5 out of 10 points)
Second Prize - Book - The Complete Book of Gymnastics
(1978), David Hunn  200 pp, photos, hardcover won by:

Phillippa aka *** (9.0 out of 10 points)

Other top finishers:
3.  Jennifer  (8.5 points)
4.  *** (8.0 points) Wed, Nov 1, 1995 8:57 AM EST (8.0 points)
5.  Cole (8.0 points) Thu, Nov 2, 1995 1:04 PM
6.  Linda (8.0 points) Thu, Nov 2, 1995 5:08 PM EST
7.  *** (8.0 points) Fri, Nov 3, 1995 1:14 PM EST

Other entrants may e-mail me for their results!

Chris and Phillippa, please e-mail me your mailing addresses.

A complete list is answers has been posted separately.  To stave off some
questions . . .

Question 3:  Phillippe Chartrand had a different injury <g>


Date:    Sat, 4 Nov 1995 18:19:33 -0500
Subject: Re: Atlanta Information

>At 03:33 PM 11/4/95 -0500, you wrote:
>>Could you please explain the information that you sent in you post.  I
>>understand everything except the 1st alternate .  Whay is Canada and
>>Great Britan invitead even though they did not place in the top twelve in
>>team championships.  Thank you.
to answer the question as best I can:
  Alternate teams are those that they know can come if any of the previously
mentioned teams can't make it.  Also, the 3 alternate teams on neither the
men's or women's sides make any sense -- on the men's side Romania came in
3rd at world's, so my assumption is that they took the standings from 1994
World Championships and predicted who the top 12 teams would be as they
issued the ivitations to the countries before Sabae, but the invitation did
say that they were inviting the top 2 finishers on their team at Sabae.

Hope this helps clear things up.


Date:    Sat, 4 Nov 1995 18:16:00 MST
From:    ***@RMII.COM
Subject: USA athletes at Pre-Olympics

In addition to Mihai Bagiu, Blaine Wilson, and Dominique Moceanu, I've heard
that the USA will also be represented by Katie Teft at the Atlanta
Gymnastics Invitational, aka Pre-Olympics.



End of GYMN-L Digest - 3 Nov 1995 to 4 Nov 1995