GYMN-L Digest - 2 May 1996 to 3 May 1996
There
are 25 messages totalling 549 lines in this
issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Sports Acrobatics
2. Mo Huilan
Ad
3. Intro
4. Phoebe Mills
5. All Around magazine 2.03euro
6. Regionals states (4)
7. Host Country Music. (2)
8. Level 10 National Championships
9. Sorry
10. New List Member/ Club Enrolment
11. Cirque du Soleil Auditions in Las
Vegas
12. Karolyi's
is Sold!!
13. new email
acct
14. Karolyis
15. Dianne Durham (4)
16. Karolyi's
is SOLD!
17. FYI from Mihai
18.
IG and NBC Olympic Preview
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Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 12:45:58
+0200
From: ***@INESC.PT
Subject:
Sports Acrobatics
***@AOL.COM wrote:
Hi!
I am rather new to this list.
>I was wondering, though, has anyone
heard of Sports Acrobatics? How
many
>have
participated in it?
>
>thanks
>Jessica
Hi Jessica,
Hi Gymners,
My name is Alfredo. I'm Portuguese and participated
in
Sports Acrobatics since 1986 until 1996. I'm
now retired but still a
national Judge Arbitrer.
If you have a browser check out the
Portuguese Acrobatic Sport, which
can be accessed
at:
http://cheeta.inesc.pt/Acro
This is still under construction but I'll
try to work hard on it as I
can. Of course, I will
appreciate any comments to perform it. This is
my
first home page I ever made. I hope you like it.
Best regards
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Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 09:25:33
-0500
From: ***@ASTRO.OCIS.TEMPLE.EDU
Subject:
Re: Mo Huilan Ad
>Does this bother anyone
else that this is an advertisement
>for a
"weight control" product?
Yes. Very much.
Ilene
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Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 10:20:49
-0400
From: ***@NORFOLK.INFI.NET
Subject:
Intro
Hey fellow gymners, my name is Connie
and I am a gym mom as well as a former
gymnast. I competed back in the dark ages (late
70's) when there were still
wooden beams (slippery
vinyl was just coming out). I
competed in Maryland
for 2 teams--Tumbleweeds and
Royal T's. Nadia was the one who
inspired me.
My daughter is a 10-year-old level 10 who competes for Gymstrada in Virginia
Beach. It's great that we share the same
enthusiasm for this sport.
My favs are Khorkina, Amanda Borden (I like her pleasant personality), Nadia
and, of course, my
daughter!
Connie
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Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 08:41:20
EST
From: ***@MAIL.FIRN.EDU
Subject:
Phoebe Mills
Does anyone know how Phoebe Mills' diving career is
going? I haven't
heard much about it lately.
Gary
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Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 16:27:00
+0200
From: ***@PI.NET
Subject:
All Around magazine 2.03euro
All Around magazine thursday 2 may 1996 edition: 2.03euro
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1.
TV Alert
The European Championships for Men will be broadcasted
on
Eurosport, Friday 10 May at 18:30 Central European Time.
Probably
Saturday 11 and Sunday 12 it will be broadcasted
also.
You keep you updated as more information
comes
available to us.
This All Around magazine will be send to the Gymn Forum
also.
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Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 10:57:28
EDT
From: "***@EOS.NCSU.EDU
Subject:
Regionals states
Greetings fellow Gymn'ers!
I
was wondering if anyone could email a list of which states are in
which USAG Region.
I know North Carolina is Region 8 with SC, TN, GA,
FL, AL, MS, and
LA. But I'm not sure on the other
Regions and what
states are in them.
Thanks
in advance for any help,
--BRENT
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Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 10:09:01
-0600
From: ***@ZEPHYR.MEDCHEM.PURDUE.EDU
Subject:
Host Country Music.
You may object to this obvious tyrick,
but some gymnasts can pull it off.
Anyone remember Romi
Kessler (SUI) dancing to west side story in 1984?
BTW: I'm TOO
YOUNG to remember this (yeah right!) but when worlds
were
held in Texas in 1979, alot of gymnasts used US
directed music,
such as the 'Yellow Rose of
Texas'.
And, I think that Szabo put
together one great routine in 1984 for
her gold
medal on FX. It had everything, inculding rare front
tumbling:
front handspring barani.
Jeff
Dina,
Dina, Dina.
P.S. Didn't Onodi use West Side Story in Indianapolis ('91)?
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Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 11:26:39
-0400
From: ***@UNHF.UNH.EDU
Subject:
Re: Level 10 National Championships
I'm also interested in results
from Level 10 Nationals this weekend. Our club
has
several girls going, and I'd love to post the results!
Thanks,
Lynanne
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Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 19:04:42
+-200
From: ***@JET.ES
Subject:
Sorry
Dear Gymners,
Excuse me for
my last message. I have made a bad reply to the listserv. Sorry.
Luis
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Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 15:17:20
-0400
From: ***@POST.QUEENSU.CA
Subject:
New List Member/ Club Enrolment
I joined this list a week ago, and can
see already that there is a
fascinating bunch of
people out there. My name is John, my connection with
the
sport is as a Dad - I have a 9-year
old competitive daughter- and as a
volunteer club
executive. At the moment I am interested in how to keep young
gymnasts healthy, and how to keep gymnastics clubs healthy.
I have lots of
questions I'd like to discuss with
you folks. I'll start with one.
Our club had a significant decline in
recreational level enrolment this
year, as did a
"brother " boys club, despite a very successful competitive
team, lots of special effort, advertising ,promotions, etc to keep
enrolment up. Is
this just us, or is this a national or international
trend?
If it's just us, we'll have to fix it ourselves; but if it's global,
is
there anything we can do about it?
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Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 15:35:35
-0400
From: ***@INTERLINK.NET
Subject:
Cirque du Soleil Auditions in Las Vegas
INTERNATIONAL AUDITION
JUNE
3rd 1996, LAS VEGAS
RUN AWAY WITH CIRQUE !
Is
your specialty artistic or rhythmic gymnastics, trampoline, sport
acrobatics, tumbling or diving ? Are you a dancer with a
strong background
in modern or ballet ? Are you a percussionist ? To register for an audition,
send us a resume and a videocassette before May 28th, 1996
:
Cirque du Soleil Auditions
c/o Sally
Dewhurst
Treasure Island at the Mirage
3300 Las Vegas Blvd. South
Las
Vegas, NV 89109
****CIRQUE DU SOLEIL******
CASTING DEPARTMENT
2595,
Place Chasse
Montreal (Quebec)
Canada H1Y 2C3
(514) 527.1480 Ext.
435
(514) 527.7522
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Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 15:11:55
-0600
From: ***@SCS.TAMU.EDU
Subject:
Re: Karolyi's is Sold!!
I
do know James Holmes, and have mixed feelings about him. My
daughter
was at his gym for a couple of years, and we still live in
College Station
and compete against Acrofit so we get to see her
former teammates often.
My daughter is also friends with several
of
them outside of the gym, (from school). The Acrofit
team has grown
both in strength and numbers since
James bought the gym in 1992 or
'93.
The level 6 girls won the state championships
last fall with,
I believe, 7 girls scoring above a 37.00. These girls now form a
very strong level 8 team. I don't know if there are any Acrofit
parents on the list or
not, and we haven't been in the gym for a
couple
of years, so I don't have a lot of first hand knowledge of
what goes on in the gym. I know the girls work *very* hard, but
for
the most part are happy and really enjoy
gymnastics. I've seen
people who relate to kids better than James does,
though.
There are several girls in the gym who have made remarkable
progress, but I, and other parents, have often wondered in
he was
always in search of the champions and
neglected the kids who were
not quite as
promising. He was Jenny Thompson's
main coach at
Karolyi's before moving to College
Station to buy Acrofit, which was
primarily a recreational gym, and many parents felt that
their child
did not fit in with his way of doing
things. The interest and level
of gymnastics has
significantly increased in Bryan-College Station
since
he took over Acrofit. When my daughter left Acrofit, it was
not because of
James, but rather because of one of the coaches he
had
working with the level 5 girls.
Starrla
Craig
> from: Eric and Karen
>
>
Here is the letter we received from the Karolyi's
today.
>
>
> May 1, 1996
>
> Dear Gymnasts
and Parents:
>
> The summer schedule will begin June 1, 1996,
under the direct
> management and ownership of
our long time associate James Holmes, owner
> and
director of Acrofit Gymnastics Center in College
Station. In the
> meantime, please pay your tuition by May 5 to Karolyi's Gymnastics.
>
> In light of the
past 15 years of exciting and rewarding experiences
> with
your children, we want to thank you for your loyalty to Karolyi's
>
Gymnastics. At the same time
assuring you that the new management will
> provide
the same valuable high quality instruction in the coming up
> years. We are
very confident that James, who was our associate,
> coaching
for more than 10 years in our program, will run the same
> quality program as we have been striving for.
>
>
We wish everybody the best of luck and an enjoyable athletic career in
>
the most beautiful sport in the world...
"Gymnastics".
>
> We will always be proud of you.
>
>
>
Bela & Martha Karolyi
>
>
>
>
[OUR COMMENTS]
>
> 50-75% of the coaches will not work for James,
we do not know James, we
> do not know anything
about his coaching abilities or who he will be
> getting
to replace the other coaches. After
selling our house to move
> closer to the gym
and give our daughter the opportunity to train in one
> of the best programs in the world, we can only wait and see
what the
> future holds.
>
> The Karolyi's have every right to retire, unfortunately, the
coaches
> left behind, the stability of the
program and the future of the kids
> that have
invested hundreds of hours and lots of money to be with the
> Karolyi's is now uncertain.
>
> The Karolyi's are probably not on this list so if you want to
wish them
> luck at their ranch, here is the
address..
>
> Karolyi's Gymnastics
>
17203 Bamwood
> Houston, TX 77090
>
(713) 444-6595.
>
>
>
>
> Starrla
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Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 16:26:50
-0400
From: ***@NORFOLK.INFI.NET
Subject:
Re: Regionals states
At 10:57 AM 5/2/96 EDT, you wrote:
>Greetings
fellow Gymn'ers!
>
>I was wondering if
anyone could email a list of which states are in
>which
USAG Region. I know North Carolina
is Region 8 with SC, TN, GA,
>FL, AL, MS, and LA. But I'm not sure on the other Regions and
what
>states are in them.
>
>Thanks
in advance for any help,
> --BRENT
>
I am in Region 7 which comprises of Virignia,
West Virginia, Maryland,
Pennsylvania, New Jersey and Delaware. As far as I know, those are all the
states in that region ( I may have missed one)
Connie
Connie
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Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 16:39:44
-0400
From: ***@EMERALD.TUFTS.EDU
Subject:
new email acct
I will be geting a new email
acct in a few weeks. How do I notify the
listserver of this? Any help would be greatly
appreciated. Thanks!
Melissa
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Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 14:33:26
-0700
From: ***@IX.NETCOM.COM
Subject:
Karolyis
Someone posted something about Karolyis
being sold. I
forgot to save the message. Could someone please tell me
when
they are retiring and why? What about his athletes? Dom ,
Kerri,
Bogi????
Laura
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Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 17:46:55
-0400
From: ***@YORKU.CA
Subject:
Re: Host Country Music.
Actually, the only meet that I know of where Henrietta used West
Side Story was Paris worlds 1992. She changed her routine before
Barcelona
to a Hungarian piece as I recall.
Chris.
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Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 13:56:41
EST
From: ***@MAIL.FIRN.EDU
Subject:
Dianne Durham
Dianne Durham injured her knee at the 1984 Olympic
Trials, and there was a
big controversy over her
not being put on the team. She and Bela were
apparently told that
she could petition onto the team using scores from the
U.S. championships
(sound familiar!) and were later told differently. You
can
read all about in the book about Bela and Kim,
"No Fear." I am
doing
going to start a debate about what happened
by stating what he says in the
book. I remember she and Bela
sitting in chairs at the trials and Dianne
crying. I think it is so unfortunate to train
all your life and then be
injured at the last meet
to make the team (Durham,Mar,Yamashiro,others).
Does
anyone have any footage of Dianne competing?
Gary
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Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 17:55:22
-0400
From: ***@YORKU.CA
Subject:
Re: Dianne Durham
According to Mary Lou's book (the title escapes me now), it said
that after Dianne Durham was injured on the vault, they used
her scores
from the remaining two events from USAs
(where she had been only 7th as I
recall) and that
these scores dropped her to 9th overall, and off the
team. I think that one of the reasons why the
selection procedure was
allowed to be the way it
was in 1992 was due to what happened to Dianne
in
1984. I don't have any actual
footage of Dianne competing (but will
be acquiring
some very soon), although during the Skating and Gymnastics
spectacular show on NBC in 1992, they interviewed her and
showed her
vault at the trials (it was a layout Tsuk full) where she landed low and
I believe she
twisted an ankle.
Chris.
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Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 17:11:27
-0500
From: ***@MAIL.MYRIAD.NET
Subject:
Re: Karolyi's is SOLD!
From: Nicole, a
gymnast in C.S. at Acrofit
I am coached by James Holmes. We don't know how things here are going
to
go, but
I personally think James is a very
good coach and do not want to lose him. I
have
been here for two years and have learned a lot from here. Karolyi's
will be lucky to have him taking over.
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Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 18:08:30
-0600
From: ***@ZEPHYR.MEDCHEM.PURDUE.EDU
Subject:
Re: Dianne Durham
BTW: Diane also won the Pre-Olympics gala in LA in
1983.
She was good. I can still remember Bela
and her back in '82. She was
strong and powerful.
I only saw her in 'real life' in 1985 at a training
camp, but she was past her peak and she looked tired of the
sport.
Yes, I agree that it is sad about her not being on the
team, but we can't do
anything about her
experiences, except hope that they don't happen to anyone
in the future.
And, I just thought I'd say
that things with Moceanu seem strange. Retton
wqas
out there competing against the big guns prior to the olympics.
I hope
that Moceanu's
absence doesn't hurt her. Is she still injured?
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Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 17:16:39
-0600
From: ***@CSN.NET
Subject:
Re: Regionals states
Region 3:
Kansas, Arkansas, Oklahoma,
Texas, Colorado & New Mexico
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Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 17:17:46
-0600
From: ***@CSN.NET
Subject:
Re: Regionals states
Region 3:
Kansas, Arkansas, Oklahoma,
Texas, Colorado & New Mexico
Oops, plus Wyoming 8-0
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Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 19:13:13
-0700
From: ***@IX.NETCOM.COM
Subject:
FYI from Mihai
For all of you who've been
writing to Mihai, he's no longer on AOL.
You can
catch him at our new address: ***@ix.netcom.com
You can also write to
him at his club:
Mihai Bagiu
c/o Gold Cup Gymnastics
6009 Carmel NE
Albuquerque,
NM 87113
Thanks,
Kris
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Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 01:18:30
-0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject:
IG and NBC Olympic Preview
The IG Olympic preview will be up and
running in the next couple of days on
NBC's Olympic web page if you want to
check it out
(http://www.nbc.olympic.com).
What was up there
already was some basic information about the sport from the
USAG.
-Susan
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Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 19:48:38
+1000
From: ***@OZEMAIL.COM.AU
Subject:
Dianne Durham
According to the August 1984 issue of IG, Dianne Durham
did not make the
Olympic team due to an ankle injury sustained during the
trials. Because
she did not finish the meet, and had not competed at 1983
Worlds, she could
not meet the criteria for
selection in the Olympic team.
Have a look at the picture on p12 of
that issue if you want to see a truly
devastated
gymnast.
Simone
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