GYMN-L Digest - 1 Nov 1995

There are 8 messages totalling 171 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Serious Injuries....
  2. Regional Invitationals
  3. Full-twisting Shushonova
  4. Olympic Trials Tickets
  5. Olympic trials tickets (Again!)
  6. Compulsories & NCAA
  7. maltese/planche
  8. NCAA format


Date:    Wed, 1 Nov 1995 11:06:28 -0500
Subject: Re: Serious Injuries....

The question about serious injuries is hard to answer without
defining "serious."  If, by serious we mean life-threatening,
I think the numbers are probably quite small--a fraction of a
percent of top gymnasts and a smaller fraction of a percent of
non-elite gymnasts.  If we mean "requiring surgery" the
numbers are quite a bit higher.  Many of the top gymnasts
on the US team alone have had surgery. A lot of these injuries
have to do with long term wear and tear rather than a single
traumatic event.  If by "serious" we mean "injuries that are
uncommon for a non-athlete," gymnasts and all other athletes
have high levels of injuries, while non-athletes get off
easy while they're young but suffer much more osteoporosis and
other problems as they age.



Date:    Wed, 1 Nov 1995 12:45:00 EST
From:    ***@NSO.UCHC.EDU
Subject: Regional Invitationals

Subject: RE: Looking for Parents:5,6...
Date: Monday, October 30, 1995 11:34AM

C.A.T.S. Gym Club in Cheshire CT is going to the Kingstown Invitational,
 November 11-12.  We are sending Levels 5-6 only, although there will be
many other levels competing.    CATS will be holding their own Invitational
December 15-17. , in Cheshire CT.   The  9 th Annual CATS Christmas Classic
will compete levels 5- ELITE.
The ELITE level is where the future Shannon Millers' come from. For those of
you on this  list who wonder,  these are the kinds of meets  where future
World and Olympic hopefuls get their  experience.  And these are almost
never talked about on this list.  These meets are never televised, only
recorded by dutiful parents who can manage to afford a videocamera after
paying for gym time and leos.  I hope that we can get some more gym clubs to
post their meets, so that people on GYM , who cannot get enough of the
championship level televised meets, can go out and support their local gym
club, from which those champions come.



Date:    Wed, 1 Nov 1995 15:33:23 -0500
From:    ***@DELPHI.COM
Subject: Full-twisting Shushonova

Dear Gymners,

     Does anyone know what a full-twisting Shushonova on floor is worth in
men's gymnastics?  I'm going to be doing it in my floor routine and don't
know its value.  It's not in the code of points yet.  Does anyone know of
any other male gymnast to do this in their floor routine?

Gymnastically yours,
Dave :)


Date:    Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:42:02 -0500
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Olympic Trials Tickets


I called, received a brochure, and sent away an application for tickets to
the U.S. Olympic Trials in Boston in '96.  So far, I haven't gotten the
tickets, and it's been a few weeks.  Has anyone else had a problem getting
tickets?  I've lost the phone number to call, so if someone could post it
again I'd appreciate it.  It was a sports association in Boston.  Thanks!



Date:    Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:50:14 -0500
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Olympic trials tickets (Again!)

Well, I just found out the information about the Boston tickets, so I figured
I'd post it in case anyone else is wondering.  I talked to someone at the
Massachusetts Sports Partnership, and he said that none of the orders have
been processed yet, but they are all date stamped from when they came in.
They're waiting for the television people to figure out where their cameras
will be located before they can assign any seating tickets.  Once that
happens (by the end of this month) they will start processing the ticket
requests in date order.  Your charge on your credit card or canceled check is
your receipt, and tickets will be sent out a few weeks before the event in
June.  '



Date:    Wed, 1 Nov 1995 21:03:10 -0500
From:    ***@YALE.EDU
Subject: Re: Compulsories & NCAA

> Susan wrote ....
> Factoring compulsories into the mix adds yet another dimenson that the NCAA
> has never had to deal with. If a gymnast has weak compulsory excercises but
> strong optionals do you compete them in compos or not? Keeping them out
> eliminates their chances for AA and finals (which are both optional only
> comps) but using them when they're not the best could hurt the team score.
> -------------------
> One small comment on the NCAA -- they did do compulsories, at least the men
> did, through 1992, dropping them in 1993.  I thought they should have kept
> them through '96, but well, no.
> Mayland

I thought only the all-arounders did compulsories the Saturday afternoon
before event finals.  If that's right, it wouldn't affect
do-you-compete-him-or-not strategy Susan is talking about.



Date:    Wed, 1 Nov 1995 21:03:53 -0500
From:    ***@YALE.EDU
Subject: Re: maltese/planche

On Mon, 30 Oct 1995, Steve Craig wrote:

> only woman I've seen do a correct planche was Natalia Shaposhnikova, doing her
> staddle planche on beam.  That was beautiful.  The whole routine was

I would include Shushunova on the very short list of women who do correct



Date:    Wed, 1 Nov 1995 21:04:18 -0500
From:    ***@YALE.EDU
Subject: Re: NCAA format

On Mon, 30 Oct 1995, Rachele Harless wrote:

> This is incorrect; there is a limit on the number of competing athletes.
> For men, at the Championships (and I believe Regional qualifiers), it's nine
> men, max.  I think it used to be 12?  I am not sure what the magic number is
> for women's teams.

Last I heard, it was 12 for the women.



End of GYMN-L Digest - 1 Nov 1995