GYMN-L Digest - 1 Aug 1995

There are 8 messages totalling 167 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Topper Pads for sprung floors
  3. Marissa Medal
  4. Trivia Quiz #31: Shooting Stars
  5. World Cups?
  6. World Cups (2)
  7. USGF address needed


Date:    Wed, 2 Aug 1995 12:42:04 GMT+1200
From:    ***@IRL.CRI.NZ
Subject: Topper Pads for sprung floors

Hi to all from New Zealand,

I am the head coach at a gym club in Wellington NZ.  We have recently
made ourselves a full sprung floor base, and have temporarily covered
it with 60mm thick bonded foam mats, finally covering it all with a
PVC cover.  The floor is great - very bouncy and quite responsive.
However the mats are too soft, and some of our gymnasts (girls and boys)
have developed wrist injuries.  I am not sure if this is due to mats
that are too soft, or to the fact that we have not had such a good
tumbling surface before!

Anyway, I have been looking at putting a "proper" topper pad on it.
In NZ (and I am sure elsewhere) topper pads are made from a light
weight material - closed cell foam, glued to carpet.  In NZ we can
pay up to $14000 for a 14m x 14m topper pad (approx $US 9000).  There
are some suppliers who make their own here from these same materials,
but they are still quite expensive.  An alternative is to use bonded
foam of a similar thickness (30mm - 1 1/4") glued to carpet.  This
foam is a lot cheaper, quite an attractive option for our club.  So
here are my questions for the technical types out there:

Is there any special reason why closed cell foam is used in modern
topper pads, apart from its lightness?  eg: Does it have better shock
absorbing properties, or better response?  If I dont mind having
haevier rolls of mats (we wont need to shift them) will the bonded
foam topper pad be just as good?

I realise this is outside the usual discussion topics so if necessary
please reply by private email to

Thanks in advance for any help.



Date:    Tue, 1 Aug 1995 21:16:15 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: 86 JUNIOR EUROS

>2.  Which gymnasts (m & f) won the 1986 European Juniors then dissappeared
>two years later?
>Svetlana Ivanova & Alexander Kolyavanov

Again, Boginskaya and Kolyvanov won the 86 Junior Euros.  Ivanova and
Kolyvanov won the *88* Jr Euros.  Ivanova disappeared after '90 but Kolyvanov
won an American Cup (I think) and was the Unified team alternate in


Date:    Tue, 1 Aug 1995 21:56:12 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Marissa Medal

Marissa Medal is I believe at the American Twisters in Florida.  I saw her at
the 93 or 94 USAIGC competition and was very impressed with her form and
line.  I think I heard she was a level 6 in 92, and she was level 9 or so at
that USAIGC meet, so she is definitely moving up fast.  She competed at last
years Junior Nationals but did not finish in the top 12 to make the team.


Date:    Tue, 1 Aug 1995 22:05:09 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Trivia Quiz #31: Shooting Stars

>>2.  Which gymnasts (m & f) won the 1986 European Juniors then dissappeared
>two years later?

>This has to be wrong either way: Kolyvanov and Boginskaya were '86 Jr Euro

Mea culpa.  Amanda is correct.  I misread the original questions, and as a
result, the final version of the question was inaccurate.

>>About the Tatiana Tuzhikova, do you mean (Mara) Tatiana
Tougikova, 1987 worlds?

That's who I thought was meant, yes.  She did have a long coaching/touring
career, but her competitive career (IMHO) does qualify as a 'starburst'



Date:    Tue, 1 Aug 1995 22:08:39 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: World Cups?

>Perhaps a better answer for this question would have been Stella
Zakharova, who also won the World Cup twice.  That's not to say that she
was a "shooting star"; her career was not as long as Filatova's, though.<

If Filatova and Zakharova both won two, how many World Cups were there?  I am
drawing a complete blank on the World Cup winners.

Didn't Tourisheva win all five golds at the first one in 74?  I thought there
was one in 78 (won by Filatova) and then an odd one in Brazil in 79
(Zakharova?).  Then Yurtchenko and Bicherova tied in 82, Shushunova won in
86, and Lyssenko won the last one in 90.

Who/which ones am I missing?


Date:    Tue, 1 Aug 1995 22:23:53 -0400
Subject: World Cups

     I'd have to look up how many World Cups there were, but wasn't the one in
Brazil won by Filatova? And I know for sure that Stella Zakharova won the 1979
World Cup, which was in Japan. The media often mistakenly say that Nadia won
this meet, but she had a fall in AA (bars I believe) and finished 4th, if I
remember right. Wasn't there a World Cup in Canada in 1980? Who won that one?



Date:    Wed, 2 Aug 1995 12:39:27 +1000
From:    ***@STUDENT.GU.EDU.AU
Subject: Re: World Cups

Hi Folks

> Wasn't there a World Cup in Canada in 1980? Who won that one?

Yes there was, and I believe Stella Zakharova won it.  (I have it on
video, but haven't watched it in ages).  A German got 2nd, I think it was
Steffi Kraeker, but I wouldn't put my life on it.  Competing in one
of her final meets was soviet Elena Naimushina.......does she qualify as
a shooting star - an appearance at an Olympics then little else?  I still
love her FX routine (wish they'd show it in Romania - maybe one of their
coreographers would realise you're supposed to USE the music!)

Just my thoughts



Date:    Tue, 1 Aug 1995 22:50:58 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: USGF address needed

Please forward the address for United States Gymnastics Federation, if number okay also.

Thanks in advance


End of GYMN-L Digest - 1 Aug 1995