GYMN-L Digest - 26 Jun 1995 to 27 Jun 1995

There are 10 messages totalling 241 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Carol Angela Orchard and CBC
  2. Elfi.
  3. women's European champs
  4. ABC's European coverage--what's when
  5. Gymn TV comments!
  6. CIS Jr. Champs. (2)
  7. Bizarre Item From the East Side of the Pond
  8. junior ?'s
  9. Trivia Quiz #30: Older Competitors


Date:    Mon, 26 Jun 1995 23:39:56 EST
Subject: Carol Angela Orchard and CBC

> (snip)
> So far, she has done Dortmund Worlds and '95 Nationals for CBC and may I
> say she has done a great job.  She brings a unique and interesting approach
> to commentating.  Since she's a coach (rather than a gymnast like most
> commentators) she has obviously had more technical, biomechanical, and
> sport psychology education than a gymnast would.  However, she's talks
> at a very down-to-earth level and also keeps her own personal opinions
> to a minimum.
> Keep up the good work Carol!

I'll make sure she gets a copy of your kind (and imho, totally justified)
mail. Carol will cover the Tumbling Championship held last week in Manitoba
and, I believe has a contract with CBC that extends till mid-1996.  Mike.

> ----------------------------
> DORY --- the guy from Canada
> ----------------------------


Date:    Mon, 26 Jun 1995 23:00:18 -0600
Subject: Elfi.

I agree, and a long time ago I said that she is my fav. commentator.
She's knowledgable, quick to respond, and I like her comments. Plus, she
has a sharp eye and I like her opinions, since they tend to agree with mine!
(i.e., "I wouldn't give it to her [ Gutsu's 9.936 or higher score needed at
Barcelona on th vault to beat Miller.]"

As for Tim and Elfi as a pair and Elfi not saying anything during the Men's
competition, I can remember her cutting off Tim once and awhile at Barcelona.
I don't think it was intentional, but still funny!

Now if we can only get rid of Jon Tesh! Do we need him?


P.S. Nothing today from my OLUMOUC contacts.


Date:    Tue, 27 Jun 1995 12:01:25 -0400
Subject: women's European champs

okay, I may be really bummed here -- has ABC already aired the women's
European championships?  I thought the men's competition was aired
6/24, with the women's to be aired this Saturday, July 1.  But I just
saw a listing in TV guide saying the *men* are on this Saturday.  Did
 I miss the women??  If so, would anyone be willing to lend me their
tape or send  me a copy?  I'd be happy to pay for any costs.

Thanks -- Kiki


Date:    Tue, 27 Jun 1995 12:22:02 EDT
From:    ***@BBN.COM
Subject: Re: ABC's European coverage--what's when

Kiki (and anyone else who's confused):

This past Saturday (6/24), ABC's Wide World of Sports aired coverage
of the women's AA from the European Cup.

According to the promos during that broadcast, this coming Saturday
(7/1), WWoS will be airing coverage of the event finals for
both men and women.  That's ABC, 4:30-6 p.m. EDT.  (There's
an outside chance we'll also get snippets of the men's AA,
but the promos didn't mention it, and I wouldn't bet on it.)


P.S.:  By the way, I second the opinion that Piskun was
very impressive.  On the other hand, I was disappointed by
the choreography (not execution) of almost all the FX routines
shown (I did like Podkopayeva's choreography); for many of the
routines, the movements didn't fit the music (IMO).  Especially
disappointing after last year's bumper crop of fine FX routines.--KG


Date:    Tue, 27 Jun 1995 16:34:52 EDT
From:    ***@PRODIGY.COM
Subject: Gymn TV comments!

I just wanted to comment on Khorkina's beautiful gymnastics.  I
absolutely love to watch her... she is art, creativity, daring-- the
definition of a perfect gymnast. I would also like to comment on
Kochetkova's FX... it was another expressive art also. As for the
Budget,  Amy Chow has got a lot of future talent... and that arabian
double front with a half twist! WHOA! I've heard about it, but it has
been the 1st time I have ever seen her perform it! Great job Amy!!
Anne :)


Date:    Tue, 27 Jun 1995 23:20:00 UTC
From:    ***@GENIE.GEIS.COM
Subject: CIS Jr. Champs.

Brief results (from Radio Moscow) on the CIS Jr. Champs., which were held in
St. Petersburg in May:

== NOTE: some names are probably way off :) ==

Women's Team:  1. Ukraine-A  2. Ukraine-B  3. St. Petersburg

Women's AA:
 1.  Elena Dolgopolova (RUS)    38.725
 2.  Anna Mirgorodskaya (UKR)   38.275
 3.  Svetlana Zelepoukina (UKR) 38.200
 4.  Lyubov Sheremeta (UKR)     38.100

Women's EF:
 V:  1. Irina Kreshikova (St. Pete), 2. Dolgopolova
 UB: 1. Olga Tselenko (UKR), 2. Dolgopolova
 B:  1. Zelepoukina, 2. Dolgopolova
 FX: 1. Dolgopolova

Men's EF:
 FX: 1. Alexei Bondarenko (Moscow), 2. Beleya (GEO), 3. Rustam Ruvenkov (UKR)
 PH: 1. Yuri Kurkov (Moscow), 2. Bondarenko & Maksim Adernik (RUS)
 R:  1. Bondarenko, 2. Alexander Kuruny (St. Pete), 3. Alex. Belenky (UKR)
 V:  1. Stanislav Marchenko (St. Pete), 2. Kurkov, 3. Bondarenko
 PB: 1. Kuruny, 2. Selevkov (UKR), 3. Tkachev (Moscow) & Nikitchkin (RUS)
 HB: 1. Bondarenko, 2. Penkivich (BLR), 3. Georgadze (GEO)

Bondarenko tied for 1st AA (don't know with whom) with a score of 55.95.



Date:    Tue, 27 Jun 1995 20:23:45 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Bizarre Item From the East Side of the Pond

An extremely weird item clipped from a much larger item in the San Jose Merc
News . . .

In June, British gymnast Lisa Grayson, 21, announced she had taken a teaching
position in the United States, in large part to avoid her British stalker of
six years, Robert Wall, 35. In that time, Wall has written her 5,916 letters
and 509 songs and has proposed marriage. In court, Wall denied he was
obsessed with Grayson but said, ``I admit I wrote the songs, but they were
good songs.''



Date:    Tue, 27 Jun 1995 20:24:16 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: junior ?'s

>2)  Has any (American) girl ever won 2 junior all-around titles?

Depends whether you consider Jr. B the same division . . .



Date:    Tue, 27 Jun 1995 20:24:36 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Trivia Quiz #30: Older Competitors

In honor of our 30th Trivia Quiz, the topic is older competitors (although it
seems few of our 'oldsters' even approach 30!)

Credit (or blame) for questions goes to:

#1, 2 Greg
#3, 4, 5 Brett
#6 Rachele
#7, 8, 9, 10 Mara

1.  Which male gymnast won the Olympic AA Gold at age 29?

2.  Which US female gymnast won two Olympic medals at age 24?

3. This North Korean girl was billed as 22 years old at the 1991 World
Championships. Yeah, maybe in dog years.

4.  This Cuban has competed in almost as many world Championships as Kim
Guang Suk has had (actual) birthdays.

5.  The most exciting 'old man' in the Asian Games, he has the only triple
back in Kazakhstan.

6. Which "OLD" Gymn forum assistant manager recently competed in his first
meet and is now working a free-hip to handstand on highbar?  [Clue: there is
only one Gymn forum asst mgr.]

7.  Which old lady (at the age of 21) finished in the top 6 at the 1986 World

8.  Which former Czech competitor came out of retirement at age 24 (with 2
children!) to represent the FRG at the Stuttgart Worlds?

9.  This 21 year-old was the first gymnast to compete a full-on mount to beam
in the Olympics.

10.  This gymnast continued to represent the Soviet Union internationally
until the age of 21, 6 years after her World Championships AA victory.

Answers tommorrow.  Enjoy!


Date:    Tue, 27 Jun 1995 18:56:08 -0700
From:    ***@NETCOM.COM
Subject: Re: CIS Jr. Champs.

> Men's EF:
>  PB: 1. Kuruny, 2. Selevkov (UKR), 3. Tkachev (Moscow) & Nikitchkin (RUS)
        So, is this Tkachev related to the one who the reverse hect was
named for?

Laura :)


End of GYMN-L Digest - 26 Jun 1995 to 27 Jun 1995