GYMN-L Digest - 24 May 1995 to 25 May 1995

There are 10 messages totalling 470 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

1. RESULTS OF RHYTHMIC EASTERN OPEN QUALIFIERS
2. Life after Gymnastics
3. Canadian Nationals, May 23
4. Gymnastics and education (2)
5. Hello, I'm new
6. Intro
7. Ryan book
8. Canadian Nationals, May 24
9. more on Canadian Nationals

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Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 23:00:41 -0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: RESULTS OF RHYTHMIC EASTERN OPEN QUALIFIERS

Senoirs:
1. Caroline Hunt
2. Tina Tharp
3. Lori Fredrickson
4. Missy McElroy
5. Lireal Higa
This meet was held for the sole perpose of the qualification for the Rhythmic
Nationals. The top 25 gymnasts were taken and anyone with a score of a 32 or
over were also accepted. I came in 26 =( a major disappointment. I was going
to retire after nationals, I was almost positive that I would qualify (so
much for positive thinking) but since I wasn't even accepted to nationals I
had to retire sooner. I am happy and sorry to say that I will no longer
compete in the sport of Rhythmic gymnastics after 9 full years.
-Grace Fauls (Illinois Rhythmics)

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Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 02:00:43 -0700
From: ***@NETCOM.COM
Subject: Re: Life after Gymnastics

I found the subject line to be quite the invitation for a SEVERE
net flaming. You were just ASKING for it !

Insulting posts like that are apt to make MANY people cloud up BIGTIME
to rain on your parade!

Whats with this "Life After Gymnastics" crap ?
^^^^^

Is some fool implying that gymnastics must EVER come to an end ?
I thought people KNEW better than to use phrases like thgat.

This ties in with the braindead attituse of USA Gymn that gymnastics is
something to retire from after college and that it cant be part of peoples life
for the REST of their lives.

Im trying REAL hard to keep my finger off the ignition switch on
my flamethrower....

Considering trashy phrases like that to be a total waste of perfectly good
napalm.... I wont flame, but I am MOST disapointed in people for using such a
crude phrase as that on a high class list l;ike this ! (snif!)

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Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 08:36:53 EST
From: ***@STUDSERV.SENECAC.ON.CA
Subject: Re: Canadian Nationals, May 23

>
> Here are results from Tuesday, May 23rd.
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 1995 CANADIAN NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS

Thank you very much for the feed - we've been counting on the overnight calls
from our athletes to stay abreast of the scores. Our young athletes will be
thrilled to get this timely report on competition since.

Sports Seneca is well represented at Vancouver with representation in Women's
Artistic, Men's as well as Rhythmics.

Mike.

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Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 08:57:13 -0400
From: ***@ISSCAD.COM
Subject: Gymnastics and education

Regarding the subject matter, our local paper, the Raleigh News and
Observer carried a brief article about Shannon Miller. The article was
titled "Class act by Miller". It described how Shannon graduated from
Edmond North High School in Oklahoma last Thursday (I guess that would be
May 18), finishing with "A's" in every course but one. The one course she
did not receive an A in was a geometry course she took as a sophomore.
Shannon received a B for it.

The teacher who gave her the B, Darrell Allen is now extremely sick from
leukemia and his prognosis is very poor. He has been undergoing some rather
brutal chemotherapy treatments. His wife suffers from rheumatoid arthritis
and can't work. The couple also has a young son. With these problems the
family is being swamped with huge medical bills.

So Shannon decided to organize a fund raiser to help offset the family's
medical expenses. The article doesn't give an actual date for the fund raiser
but it seems to imply that it was held last Saturday afternoon at the Dynamo
gym. Apparently Shannon arranged for articles from star athletes to be donated
and auctioned off. Listed contributors included :

Dallas Cowboys Coach Barry Switzer,
Speedskaters Bonnie Blair, Dan Jansen
Golfer Tiger Wood
Figure Skaters Brian Boitano, Oksana Baiul, Nancy Kerrigan
Baseball Nolan Ryan
tennis Steffi Graf
Gymnasts Bart Conner, Nadia Comaneci
Diver Greg Louganis
and numerous others

No mention on how much was raised. But it certainly is refreshing to read
about something very positive regarding gymnasts in the media. My only gripe
is that the article was kind of buried back in the sports pages. Maybe there
was some better coverage in the local Oklahama newspapers.

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Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 09:20:08 CST
From: ***@CCLINK.NET.UOKHSC.EDU
Subject: Re: Gymnastics and education

The fundraiser was last Saturday in Edmond. What they did was a
silent auction and they raised somewhere between 3,000 to 5,000
dollars. I will look back to the newspapers and see if there is any
more information. The information I'm giving you came from the TV
news. These days I have not had time to read the newspapers, but
usually this kind of report does not go in the front pages.

Shannon's teacher was not able to attend due to his poor health but
his parents did attend and were very appreciative of what Shannon
was doing.

______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: Gymnastics and education
Author: ***@ISSCAD.COM at cclink
Date: 5/25/95 8:30 AM


Regarding the subject matter, our local paper, the Raleigh News and
Observer carried a brief article about Shannon Miller. The article was
titled "Class act by Miller". It described how Shannon graduated from
Edmond North High School in Oklahoma last Thursday (I guess that would be
May 18), finishing with "A's" in every course but one. The one course she
did not receive an A in was a geometry course she took as a sophomore.
Shannon received a B for it.

The teacher who gave her the B, Darrell Allen is now extremely sick from
leukemia and his prognosis is very poor. He has been undergoing some rather
brutal chemotherapy treatments. His wife suffers from rheumatoid arthritis
and can't work. The couple also has a young son. With these problems the
family is being swamped with huge medical bills.

So Shannon decided to organize a fund raiser to help offset the family's
medical expenses. The article doesn't give an actual date for the fund raiser
but it seems to imply that it was held last Saturday afternoon at the Dynamo
gym. Apparently Shannon arranged for articles from star athletes to be donated
and auctioned off. Listed contributors included :

Dallas Cowboys Coach Barry Switzer,
Speedskaters Bonnie Blair, Dan Jansen
Golfer Tiger Wood
Figure Skaters Brian Boitano, Oksana Baiul, Nancy Kerrigan
Baseball Nolan Ryan
tennis Steffi Graf
Gymnasts Bart Conner, Nadia Comaneci
Diver Greg Louganis
and numerous others

No mention on how much was raised. But it certainly is refreshing to read
about something very positive regarding gymnasts in the media. My only gripe
is that the article was kind of buried back in the sports pages. Maybe there
was some better coverage in the local Oklahama newspapers.

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Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 10:09:22 -0700
From: ***@ENG.SUN.COM
Subject: Hello, I'm new

Hello there!

I'm new to gymn-l... the Gymn Guide indicated that I should
write a brief note introducing myself, so here I am.

My name is Ruth.
My connection to gymnastics is that my daughter, Rita, is on the
gymnastics team at her gym. She is 10 years old, started lessons
last summer, is now on the "C" team, and will be moved up to "B"
this summer. At her gym, C is levels 1-4, B is level 5/6 (below
a score of 33 or something like that), and A is better scores with
higher difficulty.

I've never done gymnastics. I've always been into running and weight
training, so all of this is quite new to me. Because my daughter is
starting to express a competitive nature and a strong desire to do
well and because it seems highly likely that she'll start competing
at level 5 next fall, I wanted to become more involved in and
knowledgeable about gymnastics. In particular, I want to learn about
rules, structure, levels/categories of competition, and scoring.
And also info about the type and seriousness of injuries associated with
gymnastics (just the concerned mother peeping out here).

Any and all information on these basics would be entirely welcome!

Anyway, about me. I work in Mountain View, CA for Sun Microsystems as
a technical writer. I write about computer software. I occasionally
run 5K/10K road races and sometime win one or two. I work hard and
I pamper my kids... I know, I know, but they're such *good* rats, I
mean kids... and, of course, I like watching my daughter workout.

Ruth ;-)

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Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 10:29:17 -0700
From: ***@NWCL.NWCL.NET
Subject: Intro

Howdy to the gymn family. From reading the past few weeks postings, I
fit in the category of old timers. I graduated from Penn State in 1970
as captain of the team, made the final trials for the Olympic Team in
1968, held the record for most state championships in Illinois (1966)
with 5 until Bart Connor broke my record with (I think) 11,Coached U Mass
from 1976-78 (Steve Nunno was on the team then), and am now a
chiropractor in Washington state. The sport has changed substantially
since I competed with the level of difficulty at an incredible level.
When I was competing difficulty levels only reached "C". I am quite out
of touch with the sport, but there is still nothing quite like a
handstand to give you perspective on the world! It has been a pleasure
reading this forum, and I will continue to do so. If any of you out
there have a connection with gymnasts of my era, it might be fun to
reminisce.
A few more things... I think my big claim to fame was that I
think I was the first high school gymnast to perform a back toss to a
handstand on the parallel bars (1964). My coaches were Bill Roetzheim
(recently a well known international judge) and Gene Whetstone -- a great
promoter of classy international gymnastics events including one of the
first exposuers this country had had to rhythmic gymnastics when the
Bulgarian team came to Penn State in 1970.

Talk soon...

Richard

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Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 20:04:51 -0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Ryan book

This month's COSMO has a review of Joan Ryan's book, "Little Girls in Pretty
Boxes," saying, among other things, that the USGF cares more about medals
than about young girls, and that "its shameful story needs telling."
Entertainment Tonight also plugged the book, and the author said on camera
that she just wanted to lay the problems out so that we could all work to
make the sports better for the girls.
I wasn't sure whether or not the people discussing the book on GYMN a week
ago had read it or not (I thought most had only read a review?) and was
wondering if anyone had read it and what their impressions were? (I'm
waiting for the paperback) I was curious if any athletes participated and if
it was as bad as everyone thought it would be or if there were any good
points.

Ann Marie

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Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 18:48:39 -0600
From: ***@HARRIER.SASKNET.SK.CA
Subject: Canadian Nationals, May 24

Hi again,

The page with Junior & Senior Men didn't fax too clearly but I think I made
everything out correctly.

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1995 CANADIAN NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS
THUNDERBIRD ARENA
UNIVERSITY OF BRITISH COLUMBIA
VANCOUVER, BC
WEDNESDAY, MAY 24

**SENIOR MEN - COMPULSORIES**

1 Kris Burley (Nova Scotia) 9.400 8.950 9.200 9.500 9.000 9.450 55.500
2 Alan Nolet (Ontario) 9.500 8.350 9.200 9.350 9.100 9.600 55.100
3 Richard Ikeda (B.C.) 9.350 9.300 9.050 9.400 8.950 9.000 55.050
4 Peter Schmid (Ontario) 9.300 8.400 9.200 9.400 8.900 9.600 54.800
5 Rob Doyle (Ontario) 9.150 8.950 8.300 9.400 9.250 9.700 54.750
6 Travis Romagnoli (Ontario) 9.250 8.600 9.150 9.300 8.850 9.350 54.500
7 Jason Hardabura (Ontario) 9.300 8.050 8.950 9.250 8.950 9.400 53.900
8 Shayne Courtright (BC) 8.800 7.950 8.550 9.250 8.950 9.400 52.900
9 Paul Koopman (Sask.) 9.350 8.450 8.750 9.350 7.300 9.250 52.550
10 Frederic Bastien (Quebec) 8.900 8.450 7.850 9.300 8.300 9.300 52.100
11 Eric Saintonge (Quebec) 9.100 7.950 8.900 9.250 7.250 9.400 51.850
12 Jason Papp (Ontario) 9.450 6.450 9.300 9.400 6.950 9.750 51.300
13 Roshan Amendra (Ontario) 9.100 7.650 8.850 9.400 6.850 9.400 51.250
14t Takashi Korayashi (Ont.) 8.150 6.700 9.100 9.200 8.850 8.900 50.900
14t Shawn Doyle (Ontario) 8.950 6.050 8.800 9.350 8.600 9.150 50.900
16 Rhett Stinson (Sask.) 8.900 7.800 8.500 9.400 8.000 6.700 49.300
17 Ken Futamura (Quebec) 8.550 4.800 8.550 9.100 6.950 8.350 46.300
18 Peter Mitchell (Manitoba) 7.400 5.650 7.050 9.350 7.550 8.100 45.100
19 Mark Heiderich (Manitoba) 8.250 5.150 6.250 9.200 5.750 6.400 41.200


**JUNIOR MEN - FIRST OPTIONALS**

1 Alex Jeltkov (Quebec) 50.030 44.220 53.380 47.340 52.360 43.090 290.420
2 Martin Fournier (Que.) 46.380 46.200 41.860 39.680 50.880 48.330 273.330
3 Rob Popkin (B.C.) 39.260 52.440 38.510 42.320 50.490 45.090 268.110
4 Ben Potvin (Ontario) 53.600 58.740 34.880 41.950 39.000 38.410 266.580
5 Benji Flemming (Ont.) 52.770 53.630 35.050 46.370 33.250 35.530 256.600
6 Darin Good (New Brunswick) 53.240 42.840 39.720 47.940 39.950 32.750 256.440
plus 13 others


**JUNIOR HIGH PERFORMANCE WOMEN - FIRST OPTIONALS**

1 Sondra Holmes (Altadore) 9.275 9.150 8.950 9.150 36.525
2 Annie Leclerc (Richelieu) 9.000 9.175 8.900 9.250 36.325
3 Sarah Deegan (Gemini) 9.200 8.700 9.800 9.500 36.200
4 Katie McAvoy (Panthers) 9.000 9.100 8.700 9.225 36.025
5 Jennifer Hanna (Taiso) 8.900 8.850 9.200 9.000 35.950
6 Shannon Johnson (Mississ.) 9.375 8.700 8.700 9.100 35.875
plus 14 others


**OPEN WOMEN - TEAM**
1 Denise Pauga (Alberta) 8.800 9.200 9.200 9.350 36.550
2 Chrissy Dumanski (Alberta) 9.375 8.600 8.800 9.600 36.375
3 Breanne Holmes (Alberta) 9.250 9.325 8.550 9.100 36.225
4 Sharene Mamby (Ontario) 8.950 9.550 8.450 9.250 36.200
5 Alisha Conahan (Ontario) 8.650 9.250 9.200 8.950 36.050
6 Kovia Lovell (Ontario) 9.200 9.200 8.500 9.100 36.000
plus 45 others

Team results: 1-Ontario 180.050, 2-Alberta 177.150, 3-B.C. 174.425


**NOVICE MEN - COMPULSORIES**
1 Scott Lang (Alberta) 46.750 43.500 43.250 46.750 45.240 47.500 272.990
2 Chris Michel (Alberta) 48.000 42.250 44.250 46.250 45.760 44.750 271.260
3 Marc Krille (Ontario) 47.250 45.750 44.000 47.000 38.640 46.000 268.640
4 Daniel Headecker (BC) 45.250 47.000 43.250 46.250 40.050 45.000 266.800
5 David Kikuchi (N.S.) 44.500 44.250 43.500 44.750 44.500 42.750 264.250
6 Michael Cerka (Ont.) 46.500 44.500 43.500 47.250 33.420 44.250 259.420
plus 22 others

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Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 17:49:06 UTC-0700
From: ***@CS.UBC.CA
Subject: more on Canadian Nationals

Hi everybody,
I'm attending Canadian Nationals this week. If anyone wants to know about
a particular athlete, let me know and I'll try to especially watch for him or
her. Tonight is the senior women's optionals. Tomorrow (Friday) is junior
women's optionals in the morning, novice men's optionals over lunch, open
women in the afternoon and junior and senior men's optionals at night.
Saturday is the men's and women's event finals in the afternoon.
Here are some results from today (I don't have scores, just placings):

Tyro men's team:
1. B.C.
2. Ontario
3. Alberta

AA
1. Kris Krunick (B.C.)
2. Percy Moe (Alta.)
3. Jeffrey Levine (Ont.)

Novice women's finals:
AA
1. Sarah Running (Ont.) *
2. Carly Dockendorff (B.C.) *
3. Abby Pearson (Ont.) *
4. Desiree Day (B.C.)
5. Jennifer Glista (Ont.) *
6. Adrianne Begg (Sask.) *

Vault
1T Desiree Day
Sarah Running
3. Carly Dockendorff
4. Jessika Houle (Que.) *
5T Jennifer Clarke (B.C.)
Abby Pearson

Bars
1. Sarah Running
2. Jennifer Glista
3. Julie Beaulieu (Que.) *
4T Abby Pearson
Janelle Kolodka (Man.)
6. Adrianne Begg

Beam
1. Desiree Day
2. Yuki Sudo (B.C.)
3T Carly Dockendorff
Abby Pearson
5. Sarah Running
6. Jennifer Glista

Floor
1. Carly Dockendorff
2T Kate Richardson (B.C.) *
Jessica Houle
4. Audrey Perreault (Que.)
5. Emi Nakatsu (Alta.)
6T Abby Pearson
Adrianne Begg
Julie Beaulieu

* Gymnasts who received a special pin for getting a 9.0+ average at this
level of competition for the first time. Coaches from Quebec (3), B.C. (1)
and Saskatchewan (1) also received pins for having coached a gymnast to a
9.0+ average at this level for the first time.
I'm glad that Dory is posting the scores as I'm spending most of my time
at the gymn and the last thing that I want to do at 10:30 at night is type
in a bunch of scores (especially since they are selling results for 25 cents
a page).
I'll post some general impressions of the competition in the next few
days, but I need to head over to the gymn again now to catch the end of
the women's warmup and the competition.

Karen

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End of GYMN-L Digest - 24 May 1995 to 25 May 1995
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