GYMN-L Digest - 24 Jun 1995 to 25 Jun 1995

There are 11 messages totalling 336 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Elodie Lussac
  2. Svetlana Khorkina profile (2)
  3. Well, I hope that this works out
  4. junior ?'s
  5. old folks in gymn
  6. Sorry (2)
  7. Many many things
  8. I still need results
  9. Budget Rent-a-Car


Date:    Sat, 24 Jun 1995 23:19:08 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Elodie Lussac

The latest issue of "Le Gymnaste" does not specifically say the injury
sustained by Lussac nor its seriousness, but only that she is "dividing her
time between her studies and physical therapy that will let her regain her
physical preparation before remounting the apparatus.  She also walks daily
on the grass at the stadium and in the hills near her home.  Elodie wants to
regain the joy that she always had in doing gymnastics.  Her rich character
and determination will help her in this new challenge, in any case we wish
her luck."


Date:    Sat, 24 Jun 1995 23:19:07 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Svetlana Khorkina profile

From the FFG Bulletin, May 1995


     Some dare to compare her to Svetlana Boginskaya.  Enough of that!  Only
because she is tall, very tall in fact for a gymnast, at 1.63 meters (approx
5'4").  And only because she has long lines, and is elegant and expressive.
 And only because her names is. . . Svetlana.
     Khorkina is the new star who is shining so brightly on the world of
artistic gymnastics.  We just saw her at the French International at Bercy,
where she. . . claimed all but bars and beam.  We also witnessed her on the
world and Europeans podiums of last year: runner-up at the Europeans in
Stokholm and second on vault and bars in Brisbane.  We discovered her in 1993
when she shone at the Trophee Massilia (in Marseille), the same year she
became the first ever Russian National Champion.
     According to Yves Kieffer, Svetlana Khorkina represents all that is good
in gymnastics.  Adorned with unusual height, pure and precise technique, and
enormous character.
     "Svetlana is forced to adjust her routines," she explains.  "You could
never expect her to do a double layout; her body type does not permit that.
 That is why she works so many twisting skills."
     This French coach knows what she is talking about.  She has the same
"problem" with her protegee, Isabelle Serevino [94 Jr Euro Bars Champ]. . .
 "Svetlana, like Isabelle, plays her size down like a Trump [VERY loose
translation here-AT]," continues Kieffer.  ". . .[She] finds new and original
combinations. . .  On beam for example, Svetlana uses the gainer technique in
three different elements, up to the dismount [by the way, she's recently been
doing a gainer layout-full!-AT]."
     If she approaches perfection, Svetlana Khorkina has had some difficulty
imposing her style.  Without such a fierce and unwavering will, she never
would have arrived at the top of the world.  In artistic gymnastics that is.
     "When I was four or five, I decided I wanted to do gymnastics after
watching my compatriots, like Oksana Omeliantchik," she recalls.  "So my mom
took me to a gym in Belgorod, my home town.  But there everyone tried to
persuade me to do rhythmic gymnastics, because of my body type, and my
delicate wrists and ankles."  Only a little contrary, the small Svetlana
tried this sport.  "After the first lesson, I was not very happy with myself.
 After all, I lacked the back flexibilty.  So, I immediately stopped and and
started doing the gymnastics that I liked."
    Her meeting up with Boris Pilkin was thus determining.  He sensed the
potential hiding within Svetlana.  He created a special physical preparation
for her, adapted around the body type of his student.  "He must be a
magician," Svetlana jokes today.  "After all, I never resented or argued
about all the exercises he had me do.  On the contrary, it was like a game.
 And right after that, I grew less quickly."
     With him, Svetlana is not content to to progress in only her dear sport
of gymnastics.  She plays a bit in all sports.  "Boris is capable of coaching
twenty different sports," she exclaims, extremely proud of mentor.  "So, I
benefit from that.  I swim, and I love playing tennis."
     . . .Sometimes, though, coach and athlete disagree.  "Sometimes, he
makes remarks about my outfits, or how I like to go out with my friends.  But
I appreciate his input on gymnastics, at I am obliged to follow it. . .  "
 And she bursts out laughing, "He has such bad taste though!"
     . . .It must be said that she has no plans of retirement.  Sixteen years
old, she trains from 7 am to 7:30 at night, in three successive training
sessions at 7:30 AM, 10:45 AM, and 5 PM.  "I train those hours all the days
that God made," she says wisely.
     But these moments of calm wisdom do not always correspond to the
temperment of this young girl.
     "There are moments where I could scream, where I let myself run wild
with my friends. gymnasts and non-gymnasts alike," she tells.  "But
sometimes, I am as sweet as a lamb, gentle and well-behaved.  Or then, there
times when I stay indifferent to everything around me."
     Finally, there are only two things that keep her in line.  Her little
eleven year-old sister, whom she adores.  "She is pretty and also does
gymnastics," the older of the two says in ecstasy.  "Sometimes, I coach her a
bit.  She always listens to my advice and tries hard to make progress.  I
think she has a lot of talent."
     With the love that she has for her sister, there is also the dream of
competing and winning gold in the Olympic Games, "like Vitaly Scherba. . . "
     Khorkina is like a flower ready to bloom. . .

Translated and posted by Amanda Turner

PS Sorry if it is choppy, I cut off the last little idiom at the end


Date:    Sat, 24 Jun 1995 22:31:37 -0600
Subject: Well, I hope that this works out

I hope that we can get videos from this person at UWASH. If not, then my other
sources so far (i.e., I have emailed them) are:





people in the UK

and some others.

BTW: There is a Eurosport located in the US!!  I called them but they are a
soccor company!! ( I found them via Yahoo) :)


P.S. Now, all I need is to buy me a VCR!


Date:    Sun, 25 Jun 1995 00:27:06 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: junior ?'s

2 questions reguarding the junior ranks:

1)  After 1996, how old will a girl have to be to compete as a junior?  It's
currently what, 11?

2)  Has any (American) girl ever won 2 junior all-around titles?

Thanks for any help!

Ann Marie


Date:    Sat, 24 Jun 1995 23:54:32 -18521200
Subject: old folks in gymn

        In regards to the recent talk on "adults"
taking/competing in gymnastics, I just want to
say that Madison has had an adult class for
almost 2 years now (the class has actually
grown in number).  And today, Jenny (almost 32
years old), a fellow gymner, competed at the
Badger State Games.  There were other male
adult gymnasts competing, but the next oldest
female gymnasts were aged 16 and 17!  She did
level 6 all-around and scored a very respectable
32.7 (she would've gotten higher, had she not
"messed up" her beam routine, but her nerves were
working over time since the last time she
competed was 15 years ago).  Congrats to Jenny
and all the other adults who competed!



Date:    Sun, 25 Jun 1995 11:12:57 PDT
From:    ***@MAIL.LSS.CO.ZA
Subject: Re: Svetlana Khorkina profile

Thanks for the profile. It was really great as I admire Svetlana  Khorkina
very, very much.


Date:    Sun, 25 Jun 1995 08:58:04 -0500
Subject: Sorry

Date sent:  25-JUN-1995 08:53:11
Sorry to have to ask for the info, but I had very limited net access.
Finally got my 1-800 number to work, so now I should be able to do pretty
much what I want. BTW, this is Jenny from Oshkosh again, and it's good
to be back.

I also want to point something out that I noticed on a tape a few
weeks back. I was watching my tape of the NCAA's from this year, for the
women, and I noticed something while watching Danielle McAdams on the
balance beam. When she fell on her double tuck dismount, I saw a Georgia
in the stands, cheering. I just wanted to point out, despite the rivalry
that goes on between the two schools, they really could be a bit more civil
towards each other. I managed to find a kid who goes to Georgia on the
net this year, and he told me that the atmosphere when Georgia went to
Alabama was terrible. And vice versa. I got to see the Gerogia vs Alabama
(at Georgia) and the conditions were shitty.

Make what you will of it, but when rivalries start transferrring to
lousy behavior in all aspects, it's gone way too far.


Date:    Sun, 25 Jun 1995 09:08:21 -0500
Subject: Many many things

Date sent:  25-JUN-1995 09:05:28
OKIE! I am the person with the 1984 Olympic tapes...sorta.
Our school has several tapes in the video collection. They
have all-around, event finals, and some team competition for
the women, and most of the men's competition. I don't know if
I can get hold of them for copies, or how to get them to anyone, but
I will find out when I get back to school in September.

Also...could someone PLEASE repost the list of NCAA recruits?
Comp[lete list? I need to check some stuff out.

And...finally, Rachel! Could you possibly put the NCAA ranking
for this year back on the GYMN WWW server for a few weeks? I
need to check something for my records.


Date:    Sun, 25 Jun 1995 10:37:13 -0500
Subject: I still need results

Date sent:  25-JUN-1995 10:36:27
Sorry, I finally found the GYMN homepage, and I didn't see the USA/UKR
results. Could someone please post the results here, one last time?
I really would appreciate it.


Date:    Sun, 25 Jun 1995 14:17:23 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Sorry

Georgia and Alabama fans don't have the corner market on "uncivil" behavior
at gymnastics meets!

NCAA Womens championships, 1995, UTAH fans laugh when Julie Ballard of
Georgia falls from the BEAM!

The more popular gymnastics becomes the more the fans will start to act like
football fans! In fact, these probably were football fans.  But you will
notice that it was not the parents of the gymnasts that were behaving in an
"uncivil" manner. We parents all hang out together and wish all the kids

But please remember that its just not Georgia and Alabama, its all the

Georgia's team mother,


Date:    Sun, 25 Jun 1995 20:45:25 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Budget Rent-a-Car

The one thing I was really happy about reguarding NBC's coverage of the U.S.
vs. Ukranian meet today was that Elfi S. was there comenting with Tim
Daggett.  I have gotten really upset in the past when Tim helped cover both,
but Elfi was only there for the women.  Finally, equality!!!

Ann Marie


End of GYMN-L Digest - 24 Jun 1995 to 25 Jun 1995