GYMN-L Digest - 19 Mar 1995 to 20 Mar 1995

There are 11 messages totalling 322 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Men's temple meet
  2. i am new here!
  3. Pan Ams Rhythmic
  4. Nadia special
  5. Mogilny/French Intl.
  6. Apparatus ?'s
  7. Gymnastics coverage on TV this past weekend
  8. Sports Illustrated article
  9. Nadia on ABC
 10. Web photo pick
 11. Pan Am: rhythmic results


Date:    Sun, 19 Mar 1995 22:56:16 -0500
Subject: Men's temple meet

Temple Gymnastics                    Temple vs. Radford vs. Navy vs. Pittsburgh
Philadelphia, Pa.          McGonigle Hall              Saturday, March 18, 1995

Temple University
                         FX     PH      R       V       PB      HB
Danny Akerman  965      965     955     920     905     930
Dubie Bader                     900     965     910     935      950
Christian Collins  890          955     880             935
Dave Frank         945          935     975      895     965
Darin Gerlach      970                          935       955
Carl Imhauser                           885                     945
Kevin Nowak                  875                                935
Jason Rushton            945
Kenny Sykes        975          965                     910     920
Aaron Vexler       955                  860     940      890
                        3865    3810     3850   3660    3745    3785    22715

                        FX   PH    R    V   PB   HB
Kevin Bauer           885       915  830  770
Rob Flannery          740  885       815  940
Bo Hanle         970  825       890  920  900
Josh Levy                  800  870
Peter Lombard    930  820            865  900
Scott McCracken       690  930       945  840
Kyle Nurminen              865
Ken Peter             935
Brian Pritchard  905       830  885
Matt Tucker      810       960  885  830
Sean Vieira      910            855
Jody Williams    890                      880
                        3715 3465 3640 3575 3560 3620 21575

Univ. of Pitt.
                        FX   PH    R    V   PB   HB
George Anderson   865  865  855       905  650
Scott Carslaw     880            840  875  835
Eric Censoprano   890       865  875       665
Karl Chan         925  890       860  855  920
Jason Lannie      905  885  930  895  905  920
Jonathan Shapiro       875
Chris Sweeten          850       900  895  930
Keith Youndt      860  925  950  910  940
                        3600 3575 3600 3580 3645 3605 21605

Radford University
                         FX   PH    R    V   PB   HB
Bryan Appleton   850  535       880  845
Ari Goldstein         490  755       840  625
Scott Iverson           770            795  805
Barry Kistler         725  805
Mike McCutcheon  890  875  910  885  860  695
Miles Johnson    850            880
                        3360 2625 2470 3440 3350 1320 16565
                 FX  PH   R   V  PB  HB TOTAL
Danny Akerman   965 965 955 920 905 930 56.40  1 Temple University
Jason Lannie    905 885 930 895 905 920 54.40  2 Univ. of Pitt.
Mike McCutcheon 890 875 910 885 860 695 51.15  3 Radford University



Date:    Sun, 19 Mar 1995 23:41:42 -0500
Subject: i am new here!

well this is my intro- my name is adrienne, i am 19 years old and i
attend georgia tech in atlanta, i have done gymnastics ever since i can
remember, i competed until the end of my junior year in high school - i
had to stop because i had multiple injuries and bills got to high, after
that i coached level 5 for about a year in portland oregon (my home) na
dnow i am in college and i am not really involved that much but i think
this will be fun to be on tis mailing list especially since i miss al the
tv coverage etc!

question- does anybody know how i would go about getting sdome sort of job
at the olympics- trhere are so many different organizations down here i
dont reall y know where to start! suggestions are welcome! adrienne


Date:    Mon, 20 Mar 1995 07:03:00 -0500
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Pan Ams Rhythmic

A snippet from the AP

RHYTHMIC GYMNASTICS -- Tamara Levinson (Silver Spring, Md.) and Jessica Davis
(San Anselmo, Calif.) finished second and third in the prelims of rope and

Cuba's Yordania Corrales held the No. 1 spot.


Date:    Mon, 20 Mar 1995 09:11:07 CST
Subject: Nadia special

> I'm so annoyed I can't even wait for this to be over.  I can't believe
> ABC said the last time before Dortmund that ROM won Worlds was '79.  I
> guess '87 never happened.
> :)
> Adriana

I was a little disappointed, too.  I was really looking forward to seeing
Nadia's teammates from 1976.  Their reunion was barely featured and none of
the women were identified.  Anyone know if Teodora Ungureanu was present?

BTW...I once read somewhere (maybe Bela's book??) that he and Marta originally
thought that Teodora would be the star, not Nadia.  They were both exceptional
gymnasts in their prime.



Date:    Mon, 20 Mar 1995 08:21:24 -0800
From:    ***@NETCOM.COM
Subject: Mogilny/French Intl.

The weekend edition of l'Equipe has a preview of the French Intl. and a
story about Mogilny.  Some of the gymnasts competing will be (actually,
that should be "were" since the meet was held over the weekend) Belenky,
Misutin, Korobchinsky, Voropaev, Ivankov, Khorkina, Kochetkova,
Podkopayeva, and Begue.  Thirty-seven countries are participating, and
this meet is a qualifier for the European Cup.

As for Mogilny, the article states that he will return to competition at
this meet.  Some interesting dirt is that Mogilny was "hated by national
team coach Leonid Arkaev" and that UKR refused to let him compete for
them because he trained in France.  About his comeback, Mogilny said,
"It's true that I'm taking a big gamble, but I want to prove that I'm
still one of the best on PH."



Date:    Mon, 20 Mar 1995 16:10:56 -0500
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Apparatus ?'s

I would appreciate some help:  I am giving a speech on Kim Zmeskal and would
like to include a brief description of the 4 women's apparatuses.  Just a
brief description of each, please.  All I really want are the measurements
(including how long the vault run-way is) and basic material.
Please send me private e-mail at  Thanks!

Ann Marie


Date:    Mon, 20 Mar 1995 16:32:59 EST
From:    ***@BBN.COM
Subject: Gymnastics coverage on TV this past weekend

Wide World featuring Nadia does Romania:

This was the first time I'd seen directly comparable footage of the
1976 and 1980 Nadia in close enough proximity to really appreciate
how much better she was as an "old lady."  Too bad the US television
audience never got to see her compete at the Moscow games.

Two annoying items:  I had primed my roommate to check out her
Comaneci dismount off bars, and they cut away from it; to make
matters worse, they muted the music for the end of her floor ex (grr...).
And they were convinced for some reason that "Nadia's Theme"
was from a movie soundtrack; it was (and for all I know, still
is) the theme for the soap opera "The Young and the Restless."
Interesting that they chose not to show the famous Time
Nadia cover during the Montreal games--"She's perfect, but
the Olympics aren't."  (Nadia was pictured on the beam.)

The Mixed Pairs:

While two of the gymnasts were waiting for their scores,
it was amusing to hear the announcement in the background for
the rhythmic demo, and then see the two gymnasts lean forward
and turn to watch the demo, while the commentators nattered
on obliviously.

Is anyone besides me from the D.C. area and old enough to
remember Mohini, the first white Bengal tiger (tigress, actually)
to be in a U.S. zoo?  Most, if not all, white tigers in
U.S. zoos are her descendants (her usual consort was
a handsome [orange] Bengal named Rajah).  I thought it
was most appropriate that her namesake's leotard was
black and white :-).  Actually, because they are strong,
graceful, and lithe (and even incredibly skinny--the flounders
of the big cats), tigers fit closely to most images of
gymnastics, even the not-so-useful bodyweight image.

The gymnastics, unfortunately, was not all that wonderful.
Looked like almost everyone was struggling with jet lag,
tiredness, nerves, or some other lack of concentration.
Sharipov was great on PB and HB, though.  Odd to see
a meet in which competitors do better on beam or
pommel horse than they do on floor ex.



Date:    Mon, 20 Mar 1995 16:53:05 PST
Subject: Sports Illustrated article

Finally, I can post again.  My email address has gone through some changes
(unknown to me!)....anyway, I tried sending this last week, but here it is

I finally read the article from Sport Illustrated last night.  From what I've
read here on gymn, there had been differing opinions about the article, so I
was curious.  I think the journalist who wrote the article (I didn't catch
his/her name) couldn't decide what the point was that he was trying to make!
I've never read an article that was so confused.  The first part was about how
Miller has gotten old, and will have trouble keeping up with the younger
gymnasts.  Then, the article says 'don't give up on her yet' .  It sounded to
me like the journalist ALREADY had given up on her, and was trying to convince
himself otherwise.

In addition, it compared the 'older' gymnast Miller(18), to the 'younger'
gymnasts, one of which was Borden(17) (?????)

***reminds me of the 'geriatric' comment from the Globe that was mentioned***

It was really a strange article....especially when it pointed out that
Borden was a virtual unknown.  Huh?

It was also a HORRIBLE picture of Miller.

Just my dime.



Date:    Mon, 20 Mar 1995 15:39:38 -0500
From:    ***@A1.MEC.MASS.EDU
Subject: Nadia on ABC

Hello all gymners

        Did anyone else see Nadia on television Saturday night?  I think that
ABC did a wonderful job, despite a few mistakes.  That program really touched my
heart.  I didn't believe my eyes, did Nadia really just do a simple layout for
one of her floor passes?  I know that gymnastics has gotten more difficult over
the years, but that seemed much too simple!  Watching the program reminded me of
a movie I had seen in the late 80's about Bela finding Nadia and coaching her to
become a champion.  Does anyone else remeber watching it?  I would really love
to see the movie again, please tell me if you know how I could see it again.  I
am really glad I got to see Nadia and the mixed pairs competition on tv



Date:    Mon, 20 Mar 1995 19:39:58 -0700
From:    ***@RMII.COM
Subject: Web photo pick

I am attempting to pick a photo of Debbie's to decorate the Gymn home
page.  We've narrowed it down three times already -- now there's only
four left.  Check out the four remaining ones and let me know which
one you like the best.  The URL is



Date:    Mon, 20 Mar 1995 20:20:25 -0700
From:    ***@RMII.COM
Subject: Pan Am: rhythmic results

Pan American Games
Mar del Plata, Argentina
March 20, 1995
Rhythmic Team results

1, United States (Jessica Davis, San Anselmo, Calif.; Tamara Levinson,
Silver Spring, Md.), 71.250.
2, Cuba (Yordania Corrales, Kirenia Ruiz, Yamile Sotolongo), 70.700.
3, Argentina (Alenajdra Unsain, Cecilia Schtutman, Luciana Enslava),
4, Canada, 69.300.
5, Brazil, 67.350.


End of GYMN-L Digest - 19 Mar 1995 to 20 Mar 1995