GYMN-L Digest - 18 Jul 1995 to 19 Jul 1995

There are 20 messages totalling 510 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

1. Strug (2)
2. news from France
3. Strug's move
4. Okino picture
5. Shushunova (was Gurova et al)
6. Shushunova
7. Strug move
8. PR Cup (2)
9. Superstars of Gymnastics
10. unsubscribe
11. "Today" show
12. Gutsu
13. Magazines (2)
14. Questions
15. U.S. CLASSIC
16. "Today" Show
17. Help with flexibility (was HELP)...

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Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 23:03:59 -0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Strug

>Kerri Strug's birthday is November 19, 1977, making her 18,

17, until November 19th

Mara

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Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 23:06:59 -0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: news from France

From FFG Bulletin No. 175

--In May a delegation of top Russians traveled to France. First they
performed a series of exhibitions, and then at the end clinic with the French
team in which they shared their expertise in teh compulsories. The women
that made the trip were Oksana Fabrichnova, Dina Kochetkova, Yelena
Groscheva, Natalia Bobrova, Yevgeniya Kuznestzova, Yelena Produnova, Svetlana
Liapina, and Svetlana Bachtina. For the men came Alexei Voropayev, Alexei
Nemov, Yevgeny Shabaev, Yevgeny Zhukov, Dmitri Karbanenka, Dmitri Troush,
Yevgeny Podgorny, Nikolai Krioukov, and Alexei Bondarenka.
The French gymnasts that trained with the Russia team in Carcassonne,
France, were Sebastian Tayac, Thierry Aymes, Steeve Geria, Eric, Poujade,
Fabrice Guelzec, Frederik Nicolas, Bernard Pellard, Frederic Lemoine, Jacky
Loquin, Laetitia Begue, Cecile Canqueteau, Laure Gely, and Daniella Popa
(native of Romania??).

--This issue also had a preview of last month's European Cup, and their
predictions for the most part came true: According to Jean-Louis Bourbon,
coach of the French national team, the Cup would be dominated by the two
Russians, Shabaev and Nemov.
On the women's side, the thin field (mere 13) of the previous European
Cup was brought up. Not only were there problems with visas and injuries to
those who had qualified, but apparantly the French team had boycotted the
event in Brussels! Apparantly there was some dispute over a certain French
competition not being included among the Grand Prix circuit. "The beautiful
Russian," Svetlana Khorkina, was cited as the favorite based upon her leading
the qualifying with 52.2 points (.3 over Kochetkova).

--There is a new rising star in rhythmic gymnastics to look out for.
Svetlana Lipkoskaya of Russia was discovered and is now coached by Olga
Bouinova, coach of the late Oksana Kostina. She is described as having an
incredible tempermant and impeccable tehcnique, and works her body perfectly.
Apparantly in her routine she has a series that involves six full rotations
in attitude! That's a sextuple turn. She is also strong in her composition
and artistry and should be one to look out for in the future.


Amanda

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Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 20:11:40 -0700
From: ***@DANA.UCC.NAU.EDU
Subject: Strug's move

Actually, I'm not suprised by the move at all. It makes sense for
her to spend a year in a more intense training situation and CO Ariels
seems like a nice, postitive environment for her. What I'm wondering is
if they broke their "no-boarders" rule with her, or has her mother moved
up there with her?
I'll check on AZStarNet and see if the local papers have anything
to say about it...

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Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 00:10:46 -0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Okino picture

In the July 24 issue of "People" magazine, there is a really cool, close-up
picture of Betty Okino (age 15) doing a release move on the bars.
Unfortunately, it is included in an article and interview of Joan Ryan.
However, I thought fellow Okino fans would be interested!

Ann Marie

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Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 23:31:34 -0600
From: ***@ZEPHYR.MEDCHEM.PURDUE.EDU
Subject: Shushunova (was Gurova et al)

I still think that there is alot MORE pressure on the athlete who
at 12 is out doing the world's best. Gurova was just an example.
Perhaps Shushunova was not the best example, too, but in my book,
she peaked in 1986, and then went down hill fast. Here apparent
success early, then her lack of sucess at the european juniors in
1984 perhaps saved her from burning out fast.

Many american examples abound, too.


Jeff

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Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 23:33:38 -0600
From: ***@ZEPHYR.MEDCHEM.PURDUE.EDU
Subject: Shushunova

I meant to say her lack of success at her first Europeans probably prevented
her from burning out faster than had she won.

Jeff

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Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 00:07:13 EDT
From: ***@PRODIGY.COM
Subject: Strug move

Just wanted to add a little note that Strug has moved to
Colorado Aerials.

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Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 22:24:00 PDT
From: ***@POWERGRID.ELECTRICITI.COM
Subject: Re: Strug

Hi all,

Jeffrey asked:

>How old is she? She's been around with Miller since 1991. Is she 17 now and
>taking a year off (like Dawes and Borden) for the Olympics?

Kerri was born November 19, 1977, so she's heading for 18. She was the
second-youngest gymnast in Barcelona - Spain's Sonia Fraguas beat her by a
day (November 20, 1977).

And who's to say it wasn't the 20th in Spain when it was the 19th in
Arizona? Serious trivia buffs, have at it.

As for questions about Gurova: I pulled her, and no birthday. Haven't had a
chance to dig through the more random files we have at IG to see if it's
around. One day, one day . . .

Back to lurking,
Nancy

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Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 02:29:56 -0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: PR Cup

Results from the Puerto Rico Cup (July 12-15). I wasn't there this year.
The one thing I really would've liked to see was women's vault finals, as
Yevdokimova and Lopez are the only two gymnasts I know of who compete layout
handspring fronts. Both were there last year, but I missed Lopez's during
AA, and then she scratched finals, so I've never seen her do it. I'm told
she uses a different technique than Yevdokimova, hollow instead of arched.
Would've been interesting to compare.

Women's AA:

1. Yevdokimova, Irina (KAZ) 37.700
2. Flammer, Monica (USA) 37.500
3. De Carvalho, Soraya (BRA) 37.412
4. Diaz, Eileen (PUR) 36.475
4. Ellis, Dana (CAN) 36.475
6. Koyevnikova, Olga (KAZ) 36.425
7. Deegan, Sarah (CAN) 36.125
8. Lopez, Denisse (MEX) 36.075
9. Pescariu, Alina (ROM) 35.887
10. Yulian, Yariza (PUR) 35.537
11. Badea, Ioana (ROM) 34.875
(and 8 others) (Sarah Balogach apparently scratched)

also, participating in exhibition:

Cappuccitt, Stephanie (CAN) 37.212 (Anyone know if this name is right? It
looks like it didn't all fit.)
Tousek, Yvonne (CAN) 37.075

Women's Event Finals

Vault

1. Lopez 9.550
2. Evdokimova 9.537
3. Pescariu 9.400
4. Deegan 9.350
5. Badea 9.337
6. Ellis 9.187
7. Flammer 8.937
8. Yulian 8.850
9. Escalona, Deysi (VEN) 8.575

Bars

1. De Carvalho 9.600
2. Diaz 9.525
3. Flammer 9.450
4. Yevdokimova 9.425
4. Tousek 9.425
6. Cappuccitt 9.200
6. Pescariu 9.200
8. Koyevnikova 9.000

Beam

1. De Carvalho 9.550
2. Tousek 9.450
3. Yevdokimova 9.425
4. Yulian 9.400
5. Flammer 9.125
5. Koyevnikova 9.125
7. Diaz 9.000
8. Cappuccitt 8.450

Floor

1. Yevdokimova 9.525
2. Deegan 9.500
3. Ellis 9.425
4. Flammer 9.400
5. Pescariu 9.100
6. Koyevnikova 9.050
7. Diaz 8.900
8. Yulian 8.050

Men's AA

1 BELANOVSKY, ALEXANDER (BLR) 55.600
2 FEDORCHENKO, SERGEI (KAZ) 55.500
3 UCHIYAMA, TAKASHI (JPN) 54.500
4 BOWLER, PAUL (GBR) 54.450
5 LIZARDI, DIEGO (PUR) 53.450
6 HARO, EDUARDO (MEX) 53.100
7 LOPEZ, FRANCISCO (MEX) 53.050
8 SRAESSLE, SVEN (SUI) [<--? maybe SWE] 51.400
9 LATORRE, CARLOS (PUR) 51.350
10 SUAREZ, ALEX (PUR) 51.000

FX

1 FEDORCHENKO 9.500
2 BOWLER 9.300
3 BELANOVSKY 9.150
3 CHEVERE, GABRIEL (PUR) 9.150
5 HARO 8.800
6 LOPEZ 8.450
7 LIZARDI 8.400
8 FREIRE, RAFAEL (BRA) 8.050

Pommel Horse

1 CHEVERE 9.000
2 BELANOVSKY 8.900
2 HARO 8.900
4 FEDORCHENKO 8.750
5 DMITRIENKO, ALEXEI (KAZ) 8.550
6 BOWLER 8.450
7 LOPEZ 8.350
8 LATORRE 8.250

Rings

1 BELANOVSKY 9.500
1 LIZARDI 9.500
3 UCHIYAMA 9.400
3 BOWLER 9.400
3 CHEVERE 9.400
6 HARO 9.350
6 LOPEZ 9.350
8 SRAESSLE 9.050

Vault

1 FEDORCHENKO 9.500
2 REHM, DIETER (SUI) [SWE?] 9.050
2 GONZALEZ, RONALD (VEN) 9.050
4 LIZARDI 9.025
5 LOPEZ 8.800
6 SOLANO, JOSE (MEX) 8.600
7 BOWLER 4.500
8 ZAMBRANO, ADOLFO (VEN) 0.000

Parallel Bars

1 DMITRIENKO 9.500
2 UCHIYAMA 9.100
3 HARO 9.050
4 SRAESSLE 8.950
5 SUAREZ 8.900
6 BELANOVSKY 8.850
7 FEDORCHENKO 8.800
8 LOPEZ 8.400

High Bar

1 UCHIYAMA 9.550
2 BELANOVSKY 9.450
3 FEDORCHENKO 9.200
3 LATORRE 9.200
5 LOPEZ 9.150
6 LIZARDI 8.650
7 SOLANO 8.050
8 DMITRIENKO 5.750

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Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 08:12:44 -0600
From: ***@HARRIER.SASKNET.SK.CA
Subject: Re: PR Cup

>>>Cappuccitt, Stephanie (CAN) 37.212 (Anyone know if this name is right?


It's CAPPUCCITTI. Missed by one letter. She does a lofty Layout Jaeger
by the way, so you might want to see more than just vault, Adriana! ;-)


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DORY --- the guy from Canada
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Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 09:11:47 CDT
From: ***@ADMIN.STEDWARDS.EDU
Subject: Re: Superstars of Gymnastics

>
> <<When Kim Z. did her beam, they would just not shut up.>>
>
> I have long been agrivated by commentators who will not be quiet, especially
> during exhibitions and during women's floor in competitions. I love the
> music and want to be able to sit back and enjoy the routine. NBC
> commentators rarely talk during floor (only when there is a serious error),


I agree. I remember once, during the 1988 Olympic games, when Bart Conner said
"Let's just sit back and watch" when Daniela Silivas began her floor exercise.
AND THEY DID!! The commmentators didn't say a word during her routine. It was
great!


Cole

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Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 11:09:36 -0400
From: ***@INFI.NET
Subject: unsubscribe

i would like to ask to be unsubcribed from this mailing list thank-you.

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Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 13:35:03 -0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: "Today" show

Anyone else watch the "Today" show's Atlanta preview? There was a profile on
the Kim Zmeskal/Dominique Moceanu training situation, complete with
interviews with Kim, Dominique and Bela, as well as lots of footage of the
girls working on compulsories. Of course, Braynt Gumbel had to open the
segment with, "It's arguable whether it's a real sport or an athletic
exhibition."
Kim says she thinks about the fall in Barcelona a lot and admitted she felt
the pressure, but when asked if there was too much pressure, she defended the
sport, saying there is pressure in everything--it is what makes sports so
special. She sees herself as the underdag, but doesn't mind because she's
doing the sport for herself and realizes she has to rely on her maturity
rather than doing all of the tricks the younger kids do.
About Dominique, Bela said she gets better everyday. She says she wants to
be a combination of Mary Lou (jumpy) and Nadia (perfectionist).
After the profile, Bryant asked the reporter if it was right to put a
13-year-old in this kind of position and the reporter said she thought so
before, but meeting Kim and Dominiqe changed her mind. Bryant, ever
negative, ended the segment by referring to the age change after 1996 as "a
step in the right direction."

Ann Marie

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Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 14:49:16 -0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Gutsu

I just got issue 12 of "Gym Stars" and they say Tatiana Gutsu got MARRIED
earlier this year! I don't remember hearing anything about this--anyone know
more about it?

Ann Marie

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Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 14:02:12 CDT
From: "***@ADMIN.STEDWARDS.EDU
Subject: Magazines

Could someone please forward subscription information to me for Gym Stars, USA
Gymnastics, and the publication produced by the FIG (can't remember the name but
I think Minot Simmons used to be the American contact.) I would greatly
appreciate anyone's help in securing a subscription to these three mags.

Thanks,

Cole

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Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 15:19:09 -0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Questions

Does anyone know what Hilary Grivich is up to lately?? And does anyone have a
tape of '91 USA Championships (senior or junior women) or a tape of the NBC
Brodcast of '93 USA Womens Championships, or a tape of the Brodcast of the
'93 US Olympic Festival???

Jessica

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Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 14:56:03 CDT
From: ***@PROCTR.CBA.UA.EDU
Subject: U.S. CLASSIC

Does anyone know if Kim Zmeskal and Svetlana Boguinskya will compete
at the U.S. Classic? I believe Svetlana competed at the American
Classic for the experience.

Shawn

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Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 16:59:48 -0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: "Today" Show

Hi everybody!

I'm very glad to be back on the list again! Anne Marie did a great job of
summarizing the "Today" Show gymnastics segment, but I just wanted to add how
impressed I was with Kim. She has really matured and seems to have a great
attitude about the sport and life in general. Hopefully, her healthy
perspective will help to give the sport a more positive image. I find this
really ironic since it was really Kim's "downfall" at Barcelona that started
a lot of the negative press to begin with! It would really help if the media
actually listened to what the GYMNASTS say rather than forming their own
perceptions!!

Just my two cents.

Amy

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Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 18:31:13 -0400
From: ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Help with flexibility (was HELP)...

Depending on where you are located, you may have a Rhythmic Gymnastic program
near you. Since a required element in Rhythmics is over-split leaps,
Rhythmics coaches have some pretty systematic training techniques to get the
required flexibility developed. You might see if a rhythmics coach will
share her ideas with you.//good luck.

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Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 18:11:54 -0500
From: ***@PANIX.COM
Subject: Re: Magazines

>Could someone please forward subscription information to me for Gym Stars,
USA Gymnastics, and >the publication produced by the FIG (can't remember the
name but I think Minot Simmons used to >be the American contact.) I would
greatly appreciate anyone's help in securing a subscription to >these three
mags.

Check out the FTP site for this information (ftp.cac.psu.edu).

Debbie

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