GYMN-L Digest - 14 May 1995 to 15 May 1995

There are 12 messages totalling 375 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. computer virus, please be aware
  2. E-cup
  3. computer virus, please be aware.
  4. GIFS on AOL
  5. Bsteinba:intro
  6. Jr. Nationals - Women's
  7. Men's Visa (2)
  8. Radford U. coaching position
  9. Dimas training in Brisbane
 10. Lavinia Agache
 11. Pathetic Greedy Authors


Date:    Mon, 15 May 1995 01:06:05 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: computer virus, please be aware

This is not gymnastics-related but thought it worthy anyhow:

>*********************Forwarded Message****************************

There is a computer virus that is being sent across the Internet.  If you
receive an e-mail message with the subject line "Good Times", DO NOT read the
message, DELETE it immediately.  Please read the messages below.

Some miscreant is sending e-mail under the title "good times" nation-wide. If
you get anything like this, DON'T DOWNLOAD THE FILE! It has a virus that
rewrites your hard drive, obliterating anything on it.  Please be careful and
forward this mail to anyone you care about--I have.




The FCC released a warning last Wednesday (4-26) concerning a matter of major
importance to any regular user of the InterNet.  Apparently, a new computer
virus has been engineered by a user of America Online that is unparalleled in
its destructive capability.  Other, more well-known viruses such as Stoned,
Airwolf, and Michaelangelo pale in comparison to the prospects of this newest
creation by a warped mentality.  What makes this virus so terrifying, said
the FCC, is the fact that no program needs to be exchanged for a new computer
to be infected.  It can be spread through the existing e-mail systems of the
InterNet.  Once a computer is infected, one of several things can happen.  If
the computer contains a hard drive, that will most likely be destroyed.  If
the program is not stopped, the computer's processor will be placed in an
nth-complexity infinite binary loop - which can severely damage the processor
if left running that way too long.  Unfortunately, most novice computer users
will not realize what is happening until it is far too late.

Luckily, there is one sure means of detecting what is now known as the "Good
Times" virus.  It always travels to new computers the same way in a text
e-mail message with the subject line reading simply "Good Times".

Avoiding infection is easy once the file has been received - not reading it.
 The act of loading the file into the mail server's ASCII buffer causes the
"Good Times" mainline program to initialize and execute.  The program is
highly intelligent - it will send copies of itself to everyone whose e-mail
address is contained in a received-mail file or a sent-mail file, if it can
find one.  It will then proceed to trash the computer it is running on.

The bottom line here is - if you receive a file with the subject line "Good
TImes", delete it immediately!  Do not read it!  Rest assured that whoever's
name was on the "From:" line was surely struck by the virus.

Warn your friends and local system users of this newest threat to the
InterNet!  It could save them a lot of time and money.  --


Date:    Mon, 15 May 1995 12:14:56 +0200
From:    ***@DD.CHALMERS.SE
Subject: E-cup

I am very interested in details from the
Europeen cup for men AG in Ostrava last weekend.
I know that Ivan Ivankov won and Jordan Jovtchev
was number two. If anyone know something, please send
it to the list.


Date:    Mon, 15 May 1995 06:41:55 -0400
From:    ***@SIDWELL.EDU
Subject: Re: computer virus, please be aware.

That notice is a hoax -- this is the second passing (or whatever) of a
post originally made last year.  There is no such virus; please let
anyone know that you forwarded this to..



Date:    Mon, 15 May 1995 12:34:29 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: GIFS on AOL

Hey everybody!

AOL has finally decieded that they will release our gifs!  We have three
there now!  All of them are UGA gymnasts, ie Kim Arnold, Julie Ballard and
Leah Brown.  Just thought I would let ya'll know!

Also our BBS is running (sorta). Its online between midnight and noon right
now. If you call please keep in mind that it is very young! and we don't have
alot on it as yet. But we are working on it!  The number is 404-287-7320.
There is no charge yet. Lots of UGA gifs, most in color.


Lori and Jim


Date:    Mon, 15 May 1995 10:54:14 GMT+7
Subject: Bsteinba:intro

Hello to all. I'm a new subsciber, a coach of a women's division I
team in the west. Good luck to all at their respective JO nat'l
meets. I know a lot of college coaches will be in Lincoln, NE for the
women's senior JO's. There were over 40 coaches in attendance in
Seattle last year. I hope that every girl hits 4-4-4!


Date:    Mon, 15 May 1995 15:51:00 -0500
From:    ***@PSCMAIL.PS.NET
Subject: Re: Jr. Nationals - Women's

Message authorized by:
    : ***@AOL.COM%SMTP at x400po
     Hello to all.  I am a gymnastics Dad and parents association President
     and I was at the JO nationals in Florida this past weekend.  Below is
     a list of some of the results as I recorded them.  By the way the
     event finals were televised(taped) by the "PRIME" cable sports network
     and they are supposed to replay the finals next weekend 5/20 or 5/21.

     Level 10 9-12 Individual All Around

     1. Marline Stephens, Cypress       38.075
     2. Shawna McClung, Dynamo,OK       37.900
     3. Shelly Harris, Great Lakes,Mi   37.750
     4. Kristen Thome, Cypress          37.600
     5. Laura Blank, Twin City Twisters 37.600
     6. Julie Rankin, Karolyi            37.550
     7. Melissa Rollins, Dynamo,OK      37.550
     8. Nicole Lyme, Cincinnati         37.450
     9. Tasha Schwikert, Gym Cats       37.400
     10 Morgan White, American Twisters 37.400

     Level 10 9-12 Region Teams

     1. Region 3 A team                 189.475
     2. Region 8 A team                 186.700
     3. Region 5 A team                 185.500

     Level 10 13-14 Individual All Around

     1. Cami Singer, Colorado Aerials   38.525
     2. Jeana Rice, Brown's Central     38.150
     3. Emily Chell, GymCarolina        37.850
     4. Tina Ellis, Rocky Mountain      37.725
     5. Aronda Primault, Gym of Ohio    37.725
     6. Jennifer Barker, Cypress        37.675
     7. Kelly Parkinson, Cypress        37.625
     8. Ashley Lamb, Capital City       37.625

     Level 10 13-14 Region Teams

     1. Region 3 A team                 188.975
     2. Region 8 A team                 187.400
     3. Region 5 A team                 186.425

______________________________ Reply Separator
Subject: Jr. Nationals - Women's
Author:  GYMN-L@PSUVM.PSU.EDU%SMTP at x400po
Date:    5/12/95 2:21 PM

Hi.  Is anyone out there at the Jr. Nationals in Florida?  If so, e-mail me
as I am interested in a couple of girls.


Date:    Mon, 15 May 1995 13:40:00 PDT
From:    ***@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU
Subject: Re: Men's Visa

Heya... I watched the first half of the coverage and well,
wasn't terribly impressed by anything other than Wang Dong's
double-double.. To be honest, I tuned it just to see how they
would pronounce his name, and was mildly disappointed to say the
least... It was so tragic, he does beautiful back tumbling and then
fudges lame front tumbling.. such a statement.

For Bill Roth they must use a code from like 1981.  At least on FX
and rings... Yeah, 8.95 on rings out of well 13 maybe.  I also loved
how they billed Macready as a power tumbler as he dismounted with
double tuck.  I'm sorry, if Hana Ricna can do it, it ain't power

At this point, I got bored and switched back to the Discovery channel
to watch a special on the Nile. (Yeah, I finally made friends with
someone who has cable.)


Date:    Mon, 15 May 1995 16:38:38 -0400
From:    ***@MAIL.WM.EDU
Subject: Radford U. coaching position

Radford University needs help finding somebody good to take over their
men's and women's gymnastics programs. The head coach will be in charge of
both programs and be allowed one assistant coach. The salary range for the
head coach is $9000-$12,000. However, I am sure the university would be
willing to allow the coach to set up an age-group program (private club)
utilizing the college facilities as a salary enhancement and community
service. This is a great opportunity to get NCAA Division I head coaching
experience and to be in charge of your own program.

Dr. Chuck Taylor is the athletic director at Radford. His phone number is
703-831-5307. He will take faxed applications at 703-831-6095. Radford has
seriously considered dropping both programs because they have had trouble
finding a coach. Martin Huckabee stepped in for last season to prevent the
program from being dropped (the previous coach moved to another Div. I
program during the summer). He will not continue for next season. Please
help Radford find a new, decent coach.

Radford's gym is a very well designed collegiate facility. It has lots of
space with coverable cubed training pits and permanent seating for 500 (you
don't have to move equipment for your meets). The gym is used by the team
and for a few collegiate gymnastics classes, thus there should be quite a
bit of time to develop a private club in a nice facility. If you have a
masters degree in physical education you could also earn additional money
teaching college classes. A good collegiate gymnastics team could be
developed at Radford in no time as the area is pretty, the school is
personable, and the cost of tuition is low.

Radford is in the Virginia mountains just off of I-81. Virginia Tech is
about 15 miles away and Roanoke is about 45 minutes. The cost of living in
this area is very low. I would love to see three colleges continue men's
and women's gymnastics in Virginia (William and Mary, James Madison and
Radford), so please give me a call if you'd like to know a little more
about Radford or their teams: Cliff Gauthier 804-221-3410 at William and
Mary. Opportunities for head coaching positions at the college level just
don't come along very often!!


Date:    Tue, 16 May 1995 08:43:45 +1000
From:    ***@STUDENT.GU.EDU.AU
Subject: Dimas training in Brisbane

Hi Folks,

Thought I'd let you know (if you don't already?) that Trent Dimas has
moved to Brisbane to train for the Atlanta Olympics.  He's staying here
for 6 weeks, to train at the local Chandler club where our states high
performance centre (HPC) is based.  According to the local press, he
searched for a coach and facilities in America, but couldn't find
anything as good as here......

He's being coached by John Curtin, who's the head mens coach at the QLD
HPC, and Scherbo's two coaches, Sergei Chinkar & Victor Trofimov who
moved here in January.

Here's what he had to say "I was looking for a coach who had a lot of
experience, I know John and we work together well as a team.  He played a
key part in getting me to the Olympics.  You can't get better coaches
anywhere in the world and they are very good on technique."

Here's what Curtin said "I told Trent in 1991 that he was as good as
anyone around especially on the high bar.  From that day on we both had
that dream of him making the Olympic team, and the rest is history.  It's
a good feeling when you sit down and make some goals and you accomplish
them after a lot of hard work.  With Trent training at Chandler, there's
a real buzz for the other kids.  The Olympic Games seems so far away, so
when they see a gold medalist, it's a real incentive for them."

That's all I know, though I must say it feels a little wierd, to think
that right now he's training in a gym 10 minutes from me!

It's a small world afterall :)



Date:    Mon, 15 May 1995 20:04:14 -0400
Subject: Re: Men's Visa

> how they billed Macready as a power tumbler as he dismounted with
> double tuck.  I'm sorry, if Hana Ricna can do it, it ain't power
> tumbling...



Date:    Mon, 15 May 1995 22:42:00 UTC
From:    ***@GENIE.GEIS.COM
Subject: Lavinia Agache

From the 2/95 issue of "OTA", a German gymnastics magazine --

"On March 4 the '84 Olympic team champion Lavinia Agache (ROM) got married
in Boca Raton, FL to Tom Carnay.  One of the guests was Mirela Schreyer (nee
Barbalata), who took this photo [of Agache and Carnay].  Both of them were
vice-World champions in the team classification at '83 Budapest."



Date:    Mon, 15 May 1995 22:21:47 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Pathetic Greedy Authors

>... I can't believe that anyone could say that
>gymnastics is out of control. By far, the majority of people who do
>perform it learn alot about body control, physical health, and
>coordination. I could say far worse for other sports...

I couldn't have said it better myself, Jeff.  Few athletes know their body as
well as a gymnast does.  I have tried many sports in my years, and I belive
that gymnastics provides a type of awareness in movement that you just can't
explain to someone as ignorant as the individual who wrote this book.

However, that I agree with Adriana that we can't compare this to pro football
due to the age and payment issues.  The question that the book presents us
with is "do we push young girls into doing risky moves before they are old
enough to realize the risk involved?".  And, I say that the answer is "no".
 Coaches can only push a gymnast so far. The gymnast must have confidence in
themself first, in order to be successful.  The coach's job is to teach
technique within the gymnast's relm of abilities, and encourage gymnasts who
lack confidence when they have the ability.

Sure, gymnastics has a high injury rate.  But, we are talking about defying
the laws of gravity here!  Yet, it CAN be done safely, and is very rewarding.
 It is the few tragic instances that have drawn media attention that have
already damaged the sport.  The risk associated with gymnastics has made
insurance cost a fortune.  Not only has this put some gyms out of business, bu
t it has also virtually eliminated gymnastics education in school.
 Gymnastics has already been the victim of exaggerated negative press.  The
last thing we need is some author propagating these specific cases as
evidence of a general trend in the sport among all participants.

I shall conclude by saying that whoever bothered to write this evil book is
both pathetic and greedy.  This book is a sure seller, and will certainly be
a cash cow for a lot of people, for many years to come.  Give the people
dirt, and they'll eat it up.  It's too bad that this blow to our sport will
be the result of a complete misrepresentation.  How unfortunate that some
greedy author will capitalize upon the deadly combination of the media's
power and people's love of dirty laundry...

Yet another person's 2 cents,

Tige Young


End of GYMN-L Digest - 14 May 1995 to 15 May 1995