GYMN-L Digest - 9 Jul 1995 to 10 Jul 1995

There are 12 messages totalling 335 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. promotional video: looking for rare talent
  2. Tramp
  3. Belated Us vs. UKR Thoughts/Superstars (4)
  4. Superstars of Gymnastics (was Re: Belated US vs UKR ...)
  5. Bart and Nadia (3)
  6. Rhythmic European Championships (Day Four)
  7. Wheaties

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Date:    Mon, 10 Jul 1995 08:48:04 EDT
From:    ***@COMPUSERVE.COM
Subject: promotional video: looking for rare talent

Hello. An ad agency in Europe working on a promotional video for home gym
equipment wishes to include a short sequence of a woman doing full pull ups
hanging from a bar with a single hand (without any help from holding the wrist
with the other hand or swinging the legs).  The sequence would ideally show 3 or
4 consecutive reps (or more if possible). Would it be possible to find a woman
gymnast capable of such performance? I would appreciate any info or advice which
could lead to finding such talent. Thanks in advance. Allan

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Date:    Mon, 10 Jul 1995 11:37:03 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Tramp

I received this question and couldn't answer it myself since I'm not familier
with things like this. If anyone can answer it then please respond to Eddy
van der Rijst at <evdrijst@dds.nl>.

"At my club we work a lot with 'mini-trampoline'. Are they also working with
it in the US? If yes, what jumps (is it the right word?) are they doing?"

Thanks,
Susan

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Date:    Mon, 10 Jul 1995 14:22:08 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Belated Us vs. UKR Thoughts/Superstars

Please lets not get started again on "Little Girls in Pretty Boxes"  We
already had a long discussion on that!

      Is the superstars of gymnastics show the same on that was in Chicago
back in April?  I heard they were airing it in July, but it that the same
one?
Anne

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Date:    Mon, 10 Jul 1995 14:39:18 -0400
From:    ***@FREENET.SCRI.FSU.EDU
Subject: Re: Belated Us vs. UKR Thoughts/Superstars

Did anyone attend the superstars of gymnastics in April? (The one showing
on thursdday)  If so, how was it.  Especially Kim Zmeskal.  Thanks.

A member of the race that knows Joseph
Angela

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Date:    Mon, 10 Jul 1995 14:39:17 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Belated Us vs. UKR Thoughts/Superstars

The "Superstars of Gymnastics" show that will air this Thursday was taped in
Philadelphia on April 5  (according to TV Guide.  Like I had thought before,
it will definitely re-air on Saturday, July 15 at 12 noon central (1 pm
eastern).

Ann Marie

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Date:    Mon, 10 Jul 1995 14:53:56 -0400
From:    ***@PHARM.MED.UPENN.EDU
Subject: Re: Belated Us vs. UKR Thoughts/Superstars

The superstars is the one filmed in Philadelphia.  Has Sherbo in it (he
didn't make it to Chicago).  I don't know of other differences.

Mayland

>      Is the superstars of gymnastics show the same on that was in Chicago
>back in April?  I heard they were airing it in July, but it that the same
>one?
>Anne

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Date:    Mon, 10 Jul 1995 15:12:42 -0400
From:    ***@AOL.COM
Subject: Superstars of Gymnastics (was Re: Belated US vs UKR ...)

>Is the superstars of gymnastics show the same on that was in Chicago
>back in April?  I heard they were airing it in July, but it that the same
>one?

Well it's actually most of  the same competitors but a very different show.

It was taped in early April at the Philadelphia Spectrum Arena in
Pennsylvania. It was organized by Paul Ziert (publisher of _International
Gymnast_ and long time University of Oklahoma coach) and sponsered by the USA
Television Network & Paul Mitchell among others.

It featured Bart Conner, Nadia Comaneci, Svetlana Boginskaya, Vitali Scherbo,
Kim Zmeskal, Valeri Liukin, Valentine Mogilny, Olga Bicharova-Mogilny, Jarrod
Hanks, Diane Durham, Dominique Moceanu, Lavinia Milosovici, Gina Gogean,
Nadia Hategan, Evgeny Marchenko & Natasha Redkova, a troupe of dancers from
LA, and others.

It was an extremely theatrical show created with TV in mind. Dramatic
lighting, music on all events, "theme" choreography for the varous  sections
of the show. I'd say that group performances were stressed over indivdual
routines.

The follow-up show in Chicago was a more traditional gymnastics exhibition
(along the lines of the Danskin show in Mexico City last year and the
post-Olympic tours) sponsered by IMG.

As has been said ad nauseum the Philadeplhia show will air on the USA Network
at 9 PM (EDT) this Thursday night (July 13th).

-Susan

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Date:    Mon, 10 Jul 1995 14:23:15 CST
From:    ***@CHSRA.WISC.EDU
Subject: Bart and Nadia

Unfortunately, I didn't know about this discussion group at the time
that Bart and Nadia got engaged... so if there was any discussion
about this engagement, I missed it...

But... with the Superstars of Gymnastics coming up this week, I'm
wondering... well, WAS there any discussion of this?  I guess what I
really want to know is: does anyone else think this is kind of an odd
pairing?

I thought Bart was a confirmed bachelor.  Of course, there's
absolutely nothing wrong with being a confirmed bachelor, and what
people do with their private lives is their own business.  But
they've made such a public spectacle out of this engagement that I'm
just thinking: what's the deal?  Is it all out of some desire to
spawn a super-human gym child?  Jeez, imagine the psychological
pressure.

I have the feeling I'm about to get flame-broiled, but I seriously
want to know the answer to this and don't know where else to seek
info.

Thanks,
      Chip

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Date:    Mon, 10 Jul 1995 14:40:15 CDT
From:    ***@ADMIN.STEDWARDS.EDU
Subject: Bart and Nadia

> But... with the Superstars of Gymnastics coming up this week, I'm
> wondering... well, WAS there any discussion of this?  I guess what I
> really want to know is: does anyone else think this is kind of an odd
> pairing?
>

When I first heard the news, my initial reaction was "Well that's a match made
in some agent's heaven."  Nadia, after all, has had her share of bad press
and could use a little "image assistance." The episode with Constantin
Panit when she first arrived here in '89 will haunt her for awhile.
And the article in Life magazine (did anyone else read it?) painted
an awful picture of her.

But when I saw the profile on Nadia's return to Romania I came away
feeling like Bart and Nadia may actually be in love.  Who knows?


> I thought Bart was a confirmed bachelor.  Of course, there's
> absolutely nothing wrong with being a confirmed bachelor, and what
> people do with their private lives is their own business.  But
>
Are you insinuating that he's gay?  I think this was the rumor for awhile.


Oh well, I wish them the best.  I hope their relationship is for real and this
is not just some publicity stunt.

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Date:    Mon, 10 Jul 1995 21:22:35 BST
From:    ***@IC.AC.UK
Subject: Rhythmic European Championships (Day Four)

Rhythmic European Team Championships    (Day Four)
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Prague, Czech Republic          6-9 July 1995

Event Finals Results
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Junior Individuals
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Clubs
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 1. Elena Chalamova     (RUS)   9.725
 2. Teodora Alexandrova (BUL)   9.650
 3. Ioulia Rasskina     (BLR)   9.625
 4. Anna Chichova       (RUS)   9.575
 5. Anna Glazkova       (BLR)   9.550
 6. Julia Furkalo       (UKR)   9.500
 7. Lorena Gurendez     (ESP)   9.475
 8. Elena Gatilova      (UKR)   9.250

Ribbon
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 1. Elena Chalamova     (RUS)   9.725
=2. Teodora Alexandrova (BUL)   9.675
=2. Valeria Vatkina     (BLR)   9.675
=4. Borislava Ilieva    (BUL)   9.500
=4. Lorena Gurendez     (ESP)   9.500
 6. Anna Glazkova       (BLR)   9.475
 7. Esther Dominguez    (ESP)   9.375
 8. Lital Baumwall      (ISR)   9.200

Senior Groups
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Five Hoops
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 1. Russia              (RUS)   19.800
 2. Bulgaria            (BUL)   19.700
 3. Spain               (ESP)   19.512
 4. Hungary             (HUN)   19.275
 5. Greece              (GRE)   19.137
 6. Ukraine             (UKR)   19.125
 7. Belarus             (BLR)   19.025
 8. Italy               (ITA)   18.975

I have no idea about what happened in the other apparatus (Jnr.
Individual's rope and hoop; and Senior Group's Ball with Ribbon),
don't even know if they had taken place...

That's all from the rhythmic European Championships.

Sherwin

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Date:    Mon, 10 Jul 1995 16:25:38 EDT
From:    ***@BBN.COM
Subject: Re: Bart and Nadia

Hi, Chip:

The explanation that Bart's offered in interviews is along these lines:
When Nadia escaped from Romania and finally ended up in the US,
separated from the guy who helped her escpae, harried,
and not knowing what to do, she called Bart because she remembered
him from when they had known each other from competition during
their amateur careers.  He told her she could come out to
Oklahoma and stay as long as she needed a place to stay.
And when she was out there, they became fast friends
and then fell in love.  Not too surprising when you consider
that they should have a lot in common.  I'm sure we've all
seen much more unlikely happy couples.

>they've made such a public spectacle out of this engagement that I'm

Public displays of affection are a matter of local etiquette and
personal taste, and you also have to bear in mind that the media have
made a big deal of this engagement, thus increasing the "goopiness"
factor.  I don't think the Bart and Nadia thing has been any more
goopy than other sports engagements (like, say, that of US pairs
skating team Jenni Meno and Todd Sand, which has also been
covered ad nauseum in the media).  One of the truisms about
a couple being happily in love is that it's much more
fascinating to the participants than to most observers;
that's why romance novels end when the couple finally get together!

>all out of some desire to spawn a super-human gym child?
>Jeez, imagine the psychological pressure.

I doubt it.  I'm sure Nadia remembers pressures to perform
all too well.  Yeah, I'm sure that parents who did well
in a sport and enjoyed it are pleased if their child takes it
up (a la the Roethlisbergers), but hopefully that's because
they want the child to share the joy they remember, not
because they want to relive the past through the child,
or force the child into a mold that doesn't fit.

Veering away from the possible segue to Joan Ryan territory....

>>Kathy

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Date:    Mon, 10 Jul 1995 17:06:10 -0600
From:    ***@ZEPHYR.MEDCHEM.PURDUE.EDU
Subject: Wheaties

I know that the title may seem alittle weird, but get this:


I purchased a box of Wheaties the other day and on the back of the package
was a copy of Sports Illustrated's pick of the top 20 Up and Coming Sports
Stars. Well, number 10 (no ordering given) was Dominique Dawes. There was
huge shot of her regrasping the bar after that gorgeous Hindorff she threw
at Dortmund. There is a little speel about her, too. It talks about her
failures at Birmingham. It says that she hadn't really pracicted the
Yurchenko 1 and 1/2 that much, but had to throw it to win. It also
talks about her personaly life (school) and her defering Standford untilk
After the 1996 Games. The article does stress that she does train alot
35 hrs per week while she was going to school. It was, however, nice
to see a gymnast meantioned, along with the swimmers, track stars, and Shaque

Check it out for yourself.


Jeff

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